Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by DisneyMom » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:43 pm

*Groan*
I often visit that other board, and really, this whole thing is much ado about almost nothing...13 month old somehow gets leg stuck in decorative pots, don't think anyone is at fault, leg gets removed fairly quickly with mild distress to family,no harm to child, Parents feel Disneyland staff should have had a more efficient and reassuring response- maybe, but they complained, Disney responded, life SHOULD go on. :rolleyes:
I am tempted to go see the Dangerous Honey Pots for myself now! :p:


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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by Belgarion42 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:25 pm

DisneyMom wrote:*Groan*
I often visit that other board, and really, this whole thing is much ado about almost nothing...13 month old somehow gets leg stuck in decorative pots, don't think anyone is at fault, leg gets removed fairly quickly with mild distress to family,no harm to child, Parents feel Disneyland staff should have had a more efficient and reassuring response- maybe, but they complained, Disney responded, life SHOULD go on. :rolleyes:
I am tempted to go see the Dangerous Honey Pots for myself now! :p:

Agreed, DisneyMom. But if you go, be careful. I hear those are some dangerous honey pots! They just reach out and grab legs with no warning! :D:



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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by turkeyham » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:39 pm

I think that parents should be held responsible at all times for their kids. If you loose track of your kid, Disneyland and other Disney Parks are not your baby sitters. One day I over heard a guest ask a cast member if they could call their kids and see where they are. :twisted:

But I have seen some smart SG, they went to REI and they got a tracking system for their kid. Kid wears a bracelet. Mom and dad know where that kid has wondered off and where they can meet them. The tracking box has a GPS system. ;)



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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by Shorty82 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:09 pm

turkeyham wrote:But I have seen some smart SG, they went to REI and they got a tracking system for their kid. Kid wears a bracelet. Mom and dad know where that kid has wondered off and where they can meet them. The tracking box has a GPS system. ;)
How can a stupid guest be smart? Not everybody is a stupid guest.

I've heard of those things and think they are a good idea. I really like the cellphones with GPS tracking built in. The parents can use their phone to keep track of the kid's phone. I've seen a version that can only call a few specified numbers which I can see being good for latchkey kids and the like.


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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by DisneyMom » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:41 pm

Well, accidents DO happen, I have told the story before of my then kindergarten aged child with autism getting lost due to the actions of a SG "friend" I was with, and THANK YOU to Disneyland security who found him quickly! :)
I told the "Friend" Off, too! :mad:


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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by Big Wallaby » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:57 am

Shorty82 wrote:How can a stupid guest be smart? Not everybody is a stupid guest.
In fact, I would hesitate to say more than a quarter are SG's. Now, just because you have no earthly idea where you are or how to get where you are going does not make you an SG to me... the SG is the type that doesn't mind ruining someone else's day with stupidity. If it's merely uninformed or misinformed guests, that we can work with and get them on the right path. But when that lady was correcting me that it's MGM Studios... well, she crossed the line to SG because she knew better than me when in fact she didn't. Tsk, tsk, tsk.



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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by mechurchlady » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:54 am

First off is who among us is the ideal parent who never ever lets their kid out of their site for one nanosecond? If we must sneeze then we have someone watch the kids for us. We have someone in our car to watch the kids while we drive and we hire cooks or have someone watch our kids while we cook.

That is ludicrous and a lot of hooplah over this story is nonsense. The persons who designed the display probably never thought that some kid would climb on it let alone an infant. Architects can design with the assumption that guests will climb on stuff, pose with stuff and go into unauthorized areas but to what extent should they go.

Parents are in a park with kids and who has not looked at the hot dog they were eating, looked at a map, or talked with a CM about something while their kids are unattended. People see architecture like boulders, railings and honeypots which they think are something to play on.

It is a big deal if some is caught in something like a honeypot. There are pulled muscles, sprains, bruises, trauma, fear, and worst of all torn ligaments and broken bones. If the foot was trapped and the kid hit the leg on something then a bone could snap. If the kid was autistic it might go into a meltdown and get hurt. It is no big deal but how long is too long for anyone to be stuck?

The mother did not know or understand about CMs and how they cannot just drop everything to help someone. Cashiers cannot leave tills and greeters cannot leave the gate unattended as they are there to keep people out who are not allowed on the ride or they help other guests, whatever. There were better ways to have handled the situation and some assumptions were made that were false.

I was and New Orleans Square where the shady trees are and two people were down from the heat. I helped one lady's daughter and the other was an Asian girl who was passed out from the heat. Security and the nurse and others immediately showed up, the CM the lady contacted was very nice according to the daughter, and the only problem was that the daughter's mother took off to the bathroom instead of waiting. Boy was she sick but she dazed like wondered to the bathroom. She had a big meal in DCA Wharf then walked all the way to New Orleans Square.


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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by Ms. Matterhorn » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:36 pm

Well, after watching my 4 yr old granddaughter and 17 month old grandson over the weekend :eek: , I can testify that no matter how hard you try to watch them, (and my daughter, their mom, was here, too) you just can't keep them from getting hurt! My dgd burned her fingers on the hot cookie sheet that I thought I was holding out of her reach, and my grandson's toe was in the way of the door being closed, while we were making sure his fingers were safe! So I don't blame that mom one bit, you just can't prevent every mishap. But I didn't like the way she bashed the CM's when she didn't even wait around to see if someone actually came.


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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:43 pm

Ms. Matterhorn wrote:Well, after watching my 4 yr old granddaughter and 17 month old grandson over the weekend :eek: , I can testify that no matter how hard you try to watch them, (and my daughter, their mom, was here, too) you just can't keep them from getting hurt! My dgd burned her fingers on the hot cookie sheet that I thought I was holding out of her reach, and my grandson's toe was in the way of the door being closed, while we were making sure his fingers were safe! So I don't blame that mom one bit, you just can't prevent every mishap. But I didn't like the way she bashed the CM's when she didn't even wait around to see if someone actually came.
Yeah, those little guys are FAST!!!!!

But you know, people err SG's, will lambast the CM's no matter what.

Heck, I have even seem some posters here at SGT take some CM's to task, and the CM's were doing their jobs.

Its just that the posters didn't like it or disagreed with the CM's, even though the SG's were clearly in the wrong. So its a matter of prespective. But then again, thats an SG for you, not thinking about what they are doing, and not accepting that they were wrong!

Having babysat with the Grandkids, They can put more moves and cause more stress in a few minutes than any stress test the doctors can dream up!!

Thats WHY ya need some RUM after they go home!!


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Re: Infant Stuck in Honey Pots outside of Winnie The Pooh Ride

Post by Ms. Matterhorn » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:57 pm

LOL! Actually, I had a few margaritas when the little darlings went home! I love 'em to pieces, but we grandparents forget how much work the little ones are!


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