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Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:50 pm
by Cranbiz
mechurchlady wrote:Actually eBay and other auction sites only charge on the item. You can sell the item for $20 and pay for their charges or sell it for $5 and a $15 shipping thus saving you the high rates on the item. Old ploy made necessary by eBay's policies.
While I am not crazy about some of Ebay's policies, it's like everything else in life, You don't have to use their service. If you don't agree with the policies, don't use the services.

You want to make a killing on your stuff, sell somewhere else, like maybe craigslist?

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:11 pm
by GRUMPY PIRATE
Cranbiz wrote:What got me was the comment from the one seller that did respond.

If Disney did not scam me every time then I wouldn't feel the need to make a few bucks.

If you feel that you are being scammed by Disney, DON'T GO.
The only scamming I experienced in regards to Disney was DW getting me to take a large number of yearly vacations in a row to WDW!

(not that she had to twist my arm!)

WooHoo a little over 2 months and WDW Again!!!

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:16 am
by LittleDollClaudia
We had a situation about a week ago with someone getting the old switcheroo on their theme park passes.

The guy paid about $200 for three 3 day passes. But it was the "I'll drop them off at the front desk, you meet me at the gate and pay me what you owe me. Oh, I will also need those back at the end of your visit."

Thankfully the guy got a little suspicious when it turned out there were FIVE 3 day passes in his envelope, not THREE as he had originally asked for. He spoke to our manager who told him about the Ebay scam.

The guy had paid half the money and was supposed to pay the other half when they saw each other.

But my manager called the police and reported the scammer. But he never showed up. Hmmm...

One of our co-workers also works at Disney so she was nice enough to sign in the family so their vacation wasn't ruined.

You know, if something is too good to be true...( you all know the rest)

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:38 pm
by Princess Susi
mechurchlady wrote:Actually eBay and other auction sites only charge on the item. You can sell the item for $20 and pay for their charges or sell it for $5 and a $15 shipping thus saving you the high rates on the item. Old ploy made necessary by eBay's policies.
Yep, eBay has made it very difficult for the little seller to make any money there now.


But as to the Disney tix and fastpasses there, there are so many Disney scam auctions there it is hard to keep up with. I usually report a bunch when I am over there browsing and also report to Disney. It is so out of control the auctions for copyright infrinement items of the characters and the passes. I still jusy dutifully report and hope to get rid of some of the scams.

I just reported some Pooh costumes out of South America that are NOT Disney made and they were STILL listed even after Disney busted a family in Florida for using these costumes at kid's parties. They paid 700.00 for the non licensed costumes at eBay and Disney found out! OOPS!

Disney is suing for a million bucks for copyright infringement. The couple bought the Pooh, Eeyore, and Tigger costumes on eBay and used them at their parties. They had some sort of party company for kids. They said they did not know they were doing anything against the law. You decide.

Here is the article from the Sentinel:


Disney sues Lake County business over use of Pooh, other characters
Stephen Hudak | Sentinel Staff Writer
July 10, 2008
Step aside, Cruella De Vil.

A federal lawsuit filed by Disney Enterprises Inc. has cast a Clermont couple as villains who exploited the trademarked likenesses of Winnie the Pooh, Eeyore and Tigger, too, to enrich their family business, Kool Klown Party People Inc.

Maitland-based lawyers for Disney demanded in the million-dollar copyright-infringement suit that David Chaveco, 32, and Marisol Perez-Chaveco, 31, stop offering live entertainment services for children's parties that feature performers in "unauthorized reproductions" of character costumes.

The 2-year-old Lake County company offers custom-baked cakes, face painting, pinatas and inflatable "bounce" houses.

Perez-Chaveco, a work-from-home mother of two preschoolers, said she and her husband did not realize they were harming the film and resort giant when they paid $500 plus shipping for the adult-sized costumes of a "blue donkey" and an "orange tiger" from a Peruvian company on eBay.

The costumes were close matches to cartoon versions of droll Eeyore and bouncy Tigger.

"All of a sudden, I'm like some Cruella, the woman who steals puppies," Perez-Chaveco said, referring to the villainess in 101 Dalmatians.

"We're just trying our best to make ends meet and put food on our children's plates," she said.

The couple, who receive public assistance, filed a response in federal court in Orlando, contending they have complied with all of Disney's demands but one: They sent the knock-offs back to Peru for a refund.

"We needed the money," Perez-Chaveco said when asked why she didn't surrender the unlicensed costumes to Disney to destroy.

Disney officials in Florida declined to comment Wednesday, saying the lawsuit spoke for itself.

Disney's lawsuit contends it has the right to "combat willful and intentional infringement of its copyrighted properties" to prevent misuse of its characters. The company says it has, in the past, received complaints about unauthorized use of its characters.

Without firm licensing agreements, the company noted, it "cannot control the quality and nature of the performance, the quality of the costumes, [or] the quality and background of the individuals providing the performance . . . "

Disney has a history of vigorously protecting its copyrights, objecting to the unauthorized use of Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy in murals at three South Florida preschools and challenging the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for using the company's Snow White character without permission during the 1989 Oscars.

In the lawsuit against the Clermont couple, Disney also is seeking attorney's fees.


For a video showing the quality of the costumes, please go to http://www.wftv.com/video/16824445/index.html

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:01 pm
by EeyoresButterfly
I feel bad for the family, but I understand why Disney is doing it. The only people who can dress up like Disney characters for professional performances are the Disney characters. What happens if somebody gets these costumes and then does something illegal? Who do you think they are going to sue? Disney!

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. If you are running a business like that, you need to be aware of the law. Disney sent them three letters, they failedto comply, what do they expect?

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:40 pm
by drcorey
Princess Susi wrote:Yep, eBay has made it very difficult for the little seller to make any money there now.


But as to the Disney tix and fastpasses there, there are so many Disney scam auctions there it is hard to keep up with. I usually report a bunch when I am over there browsing and also report to Disney. It is so out of control the auctions for copyright infrinement items of the characters and the passes. I still jusy dutifully report and hope to get rid of some of the scams.

I just reported some Pooh costumes out of South America that are NOT Disney made and they were STILL listed even after Disney busted a family in Florida for using these costumes at kid's parties. They paid 700.00 for the non licensed costumes at eBay and Disney found out! OOPS!

Disney is suing for a million bucks for copyright infringement. The couple bought the Pooh, Eeyore, and Tigger costumes on eBay and used them at their parties. They had some sort of party company for kids. They said they did not know they were doing anything against the law. You decide.

Here is the article from the Sentinel:


Disney sues Lake County business over use of Pooh, other characters
Stephen Hudak | Sentinel Staff Writer
July 10, 2008
Step aside, Cruella De Vil.

A federal lawsuit filed by Disney Enterprises Inc. has cast a Clermont couple as villains who exploited the trademarked likenesses of Winnie the Pooh, Eeyore and Tigger, too, to enrich their family business, Kool Klown Party People Inc.

Maitland-based lawyers for Disney demanded in the million-dollar copyright-infringement suit that David Chaveco, 32, and Marisol Perez-Chaveco, 31, stop offering live entertainment services for children's parties that feature performers in "unauthorized reproductions" of character costumes.

The 2-year-old Lake County company offers custom-baked cakes, face painting, pinatas and inflatable "bounce" houses.

Perez-Chaveco, a work-from-home mother of two preschoolers, said she and her husband did not realize they were harming the film and resort giant when they paid $500 plus shipping for the adult-sized costumes of a "blue donkey" and an "orange tiger" from a Peruvian company on eBay.

The costumes were close matches to cartoon versions of droll Eeyore and bouncy Tigger.

"All of a sudden, I'm like some Cruella, the woman who steals puppies," Perez-Chaveco said, referring to the villainess in 101 Dalmatians.

"We're just trying our best to make ends meet and put food on our children's plates," she said.

The couple, who receive public assistance, filed a response in federal court in Orlando, contending they have complied with all of Disney's demands but one: They sent the knock-offs back to Peru for a refund.

"We needed the money," Perez-Chaveco said when asked why she didn't surrender the unlicensed costumes to Disney to destroy.

Disney officials in Florida declined to comment Wednesday, saying the lawsuit spoke for itself.

Disney's lawsuit contends it has the right to "combat willful and intentional infringement of its copyrighted properties" to prevent misuse of its characters. The company says it has, in the past, received complaints about unauthorized use of its characters.

Without firm licensing agreements, the company noted, it "cannot control the quality and nature of the performance, the quality of the costumes, [or] the quality and background of the individuals providing the performance . . . "

Disney has a history of vigorously protecting its copyrights, objecting to the unauthorized use of Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy in murals at three South Florida preschools and challenging the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for using the company's Snow White character without permission during the 1989 Oscars.

In the lawsuit against the Clermont couple, Disney also is seeking attorney's fees.

For a video showing the quality of the costumes, please go to http://www.wftv.com/video/16824445/index.html
I one saw some of Disney's Inhouse Costumes for sale on Ebay.
I called Disney legal and said, Do you guys know right now on Ebay someone
is selling some of Disney's costumes. the nice lady replyed, yes, sir, Disney has costumes selling all over the place. I said, Not the public versions, Your
inhouse "special" versions. she said please hold, and I was listening to some nice music. a nice man then came on the phone and asked me for the auction numbers and sellers ids. and then said thank you very much.
I then saw the auctions close within 15 mins. they were older costumes that were retired, I think. but still, the nerve of people taking those and trying to sell them. like no one in the industry can tell if they are pro costumes or not.
the seller even had close up photos of the Disney wardrobe tags too. :eek:
I have never seen a non us copy thou.

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:44 pm
by drcorey
Princess Susi wrote:Yep, eBay has made it very difficult for the little seller to make any money there now.

But as to the Disney tix and fastpasses there, there are so many Disney scam auctions there it is hard to keep up with. I usually report a bunch when I am over there browsing and also report to Disney. It is so out of control the auctions for copyright infrinement items of the characters and the passes. I still jusy dutifully report and hope to get rid of some of the scams.

I just reported some Pooh costumes out of South America that are NOT Disney made and they were STILL listed even after Disney busted a family in Florida for using these costumes at kid's parties. They paid 700.00 for the non licensed costumes at eBay and Disney found out! OOPS!

Disney is suing for a million bucks for copyright infringement. The couple bought the Pooh, Eeyore, and Tigger costumes on eBay and used them at their parties. They had some sort of party company for kids. They said they did not know they were doing anything against the law. You decide.

Here is the article from the Sentinel:


Disney sues Lake County business over use of Pooh, other characters
Stephen Hudak | Sentinel Staff Writer
July 10, 2008
Step aside, Cruella De Vil.

A federal lawsuit filed by Disney Enterprises Inc. has cast a Clermont couple as villains who exploited the trademarked likenesses of Winnie the Pooh, Eeyore and Tigger, too, to enrich their family business, Kool Klown Party People Inc.

Maitland-based lawyers for Disney demanded in the million-dollar copyright-infringement suit that David Chaveco, 32, and Marisol Perez-Chaveco, 31, stop offering live entertainment services for children's parties that feature performers in "unauthorized reproductions" of character costumes.

The 2-year-old Lake County company offers custom-baked cakes, face painting, pinatas and inflatable "bounce" houses.

Perez-Chaveco, a work-from-home mother of two preschoolers, said she and her husband did not realize they were harming the film and resort giant when they paid $500 plus shipping for the adult-sized costumes of a "blue donkey" and an "orange tiger" from a Peruvian company on eBay.

The costumes were close matches to cartoon versions of droll Eeyore and bouncy Tigger.

"All of a sudden, I'm like some Cruella, the woman who steals puppies," Perez-Chaveco said, referring to the villainess in 101 Dalmatians.

"We're just trying our best to make ends meet and put food on our children's plates," she said.

The couple, who receive public assistance, filed a response in federal court in Orlando, contending they have complied with all of Disney's demands but one: They sent the knock-offs back to Peru for a refund.

"We needed the money," Perez-Chaveco said when asked why she didn't surrender the unlicensed costumes to Disney to destroy.

Disney officials in Florida declined to comment Wednesday, saying the lawsuit spoke for itself.

Disney's lawsuit contends it has the right to "combat willful and intentional infringement of its copyrighted properties" to prevent misuse of its characters. The company says it has, in the past, received complaints about unauthorized use of its characters.

Without firm licensing agreements, the company noted, it "cannot control the quality and nature of the performance, the quality of the costumes, [or] the quality and background of the individuals providing the performance . . . "

Disney has a history of vigorously protecting its copyrights, objecting to the unauthorized use of Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy in murals at three South Florida preschools and challenging the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for using the company's Snow White character without permission during the 1989 Oscars.

In the lawsuit against the Clermont couple, Disney also is seeking attorney's fees.


For a video showing the quality of the costumes, please go to http://www.wftv.com/video/16824445/index.html
Even the Warner Bros protect thier property.
We had a Speedy Gonzales Tire Store out here years ago. Speedy was even on all the signs and stuff. within a year the Bros put a stop to that.

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:57 pm
by Syndrome
That family was all over the news here in FL, playing to the cameras and insisting that they had no idea that the costumes looked like Pooh characters...none at all...totally innocent...apparently never saw Pooh characters before even tho' they live in FL and have little kids.

They also went on and on about how they are on public assistance and had to send the costumes back because they have so little money. Uh, you're on public assistance and you're running a business? Are you reporting that income to the government? Or could it by chance be a "cash" business to supplement those benefits?

If they are indeed pulling anything hinky, they might just be sorry they appeared on every news channel if their public aid office (and the IRS) gets wind due to all those public appearances talking about their business.

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:51 pm
by Sarah Magdalene
What about those party places that offer Princess "Look Alikes" to some to their party - decked out in very similar costumes that the real gals use? I seen may of them advertised on the net such as http://www.fairytalehome.com/
and http://www.tiarasandtreasuresparties.co ... Visit.html

Disney isn't going to sue to the use of them either?

Re: Selling fastpasses on ebay

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:13 pm
by accioetoile
Sarah Magdalene wrote:What about those party places that offer Princess "Look Alikes" to some to their party - decked out in very similar costumes that the real gals use? I seen may of them advertised on the net such as http://www.fairytalehome.com/
and http://www.tiarasandtreasuresparties.co ... Visit.html

Disney isn't going to sue to the use of them either?
I have one girl on my facebook, who is a princess at one of these companies. She dressed up as Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Alice, and other princesses, and has pictures all over her facebook. She's said her boss buys all the costumes and wigs. I'm sure they aren't Disney sanctioned, so are they just too far away for Disney to deal with?