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Post by Mr. D. » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:11 pm

Csaks wrote:Wow, 9 to 11 dollars an hour for a car mechanic! No wonder you are miserable.
Who said I was miserable? But that is what most shop hands earn. Just so you know.
Csaks wrote:Too bad you think scaming the system is OK. Claiming to be a Florida resident when you are not would be like me sending my Mom in to get my truck fixed the shop at the seniors discount even though the truck isn't hers.
WHo said anyone scammed anyone? Did this guy go up to Disney and offer them something, and not deliver? NOPE. And if you sent you mom with your truck to get he discount, there is nothing wrong with that. but if YOU had gone in and claimed to be a senior to get the discount, that's wrong and lying and a scam.


Csaks wrote:Disney has plenty of deals for everyone, you just need to wait for it to show up and its yours. If you don't like it don't go, everyone with be better for it. We save hundreds everytime with either a room or dinning deal, go figure :eek: and I didn't need to pretend to be a Florida resident to do it.
And this guy acted on a deal he saw and used it to his advantage. He found a way to make it work for him at the time he needed it.

ForJustADollarMore wrote:Erm, sorry, but no, I haven't. Really.
BULL
ForJustADollarMore wrote:I live by 3 distinct rules:

Don't lie.

Don't cheat.

Don't steal.

And that be THAT, my friend. And it's not about "being better" or "holier than thou". It just is. It's what I'm about.
And you help little old ladies across the street and never ever go over the speed limit and always have the little halo over your head and your wings coming out your back. Man you really need a reality check. You're not perfect. Get down off your high horse and join the real world.



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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by Csaks » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:39 pm

Mr. D. wrote:Who said I was miserable? But that is what most shop hands earn. Just so you know.



WHo said anyone scammed anyone? Did this guy go up to Disney and offer them something, and not deliver? NOPE. And if you sent you mom with your truck to get he discount, there is nothing wrong with that. but if YOU had gone in and claimed to be a senior to get the discount, that's wrong and lying and a scam.
Reading your rants about people making large amounts of money and you are not makes me think you are miserable. Sorry if your impression to those reading seems that way.

By the way do you live in the Land Lost in Time? $.75 cent cans of pop in a vending machine, $9 to $11 wages for a skilled trade in this day and age?

It's easy to tell if you are scamming or stealing this product in question.The product is a discount to a Florida resident. Are you a Florida resident? Yes or No. If yes, you get the deal, if not you are lying and therefore stealing and or scamming the system to get the discount. Pretty simple I'd say but then again some will say anything to justify their position against the big bad corperation that is making too much money and can afford to put up with a few folks that try to scam a discount out of them. Right?

Like I said before there are plenty of Disney discounts out there and there is no need to lie about the place you live to get one. It's dishonest, plain and simple and if you can't see that then so be it, you never will.



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Post by Mr. D. » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:34 pm

Goofyernmost wrote:It isn't your employees fault that you are not willing or able to charge today's prices that are the measure of what things are worth and they suffer low incomes to fulfill your lack of confidence in your own work or worth. I'm not buying the saintly posture.
Your confusing willing and able with desire. I am more then able to charge the $75/hr the other guys charge and I would be willing to do so IF I was greedy. But I desire to keep my customers happy and that makes them willing to come back and they desire my service over the others. I live comfortable and so I do not desire to over charge my customers and run them off.

Csaks wrote:By the way do you live in the Land Lost in Time? $.75 cent cans of pop in a vending machine, $9 to $11 wages for a skilled trade in this day and age?
Yep in this day and age (see pics I posted of $.75 sodas). People here RESPECT others and are not all about greed. Mechanics are willing to work for a fair wage of $11.00/hr when they only do oil changes and tire swaps. Mechanics that do engine rebuilds get paid more. People here understand that you don't need to have a mansion to be happy. Your home is maintained, your bills are paid on time, you have food and health and friends and family. People here save up for 5 years or more to take a trip to places like Disney, and that is on the low budget vacation scale. Some people save for 15 years to do the nicer vacations like 4 days at the resort with dining.

I am sorry that you see greed as okay and think that charging $1.25 for a soda is reasonable. It's that mind set that has the world in the mess it is in. The public set the prices, and if they would ever realize that, then prices will drop. Why is the cost of living lower here? Because the people told companies like Good Year that we will NOT put up with your greed. We will take our cars to someone we know and trust and that does not rip us off.

BTW a friend of mine owns a small hardware store. Ace hardware came to town. They lasted 6 months. Their prices were too high. My friend got the exact same products for lower cost. He didn't have to worry about nation wide advertisement, nation wide employees, high cost work mans comp, (nice thing about have small employee team), all he had to worry about was his store and personal life bills. he made enough to cover those things.


Csaks wrote:It's easy to tell if you are scamming or stealing this product in question.The product is a discount to a Florida resident. Are you a Florida resident? Yes or No. If yes, you get the deal, if not you are lying and therefore stealing and or scamming the system to get the discount. Pretty simple I'd say but then again some will say anything to justify their position against the big bad corperation that is making too much money and can afford to put up with a few folks that try to scam a discount out of them. Right?
Fair. So Bob being a Fl resident buys 4 tickets with the discount legit since he is in fact a FL resident. He then invites Jim and his wife down from New York, and So Bob, his wife, Jim and his wife all go to Disney with Bob's ticket's. ALL 100% legit. No one scammed anyone, no one lied, no one stole anything. Bob bought the tickets, they are his, he can do whit them what he wants, and he choose to give them to his out of state friend while they were visiting.



Csaks wrote:Like I said before there are plenty of Disney discounts out there and there is no need to lie about the place you live to get one. It's dishonest, plain and simple and if you can't see that then so be it, you never will.
No one said it wasn't dishonest. But it is a no harm, no foul situation. And there is absolutely NO HARM.

If you and others don''t see that, then you never will. Hard to see the real world living so high up on that cloud?



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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by Zazu » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:48 pm

Mr. D. wrote:So Bob being a Fl resident buys 4 tickets with the discount legit since he is in fact a FL resident. He then invites Jim and his wife down from New York, and So Bob, his wife, Jim and his wife all go to Disney with Bob's ticket's. ALL 100% legit. No one scammed anyone, no one lied, no one stole anything. Bob bought the tickets, they are his, he can do whit them what he wants, and he choose to give them to his out of state friend while they were visiting.
The actions you describe above are illegal in Florida. Recommending them here is not permitted. Please don't do it again.


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Post by ktulu » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:05 pm

Mr. D. wrote:Your confusing willing and able with desire.
Your or you're? There is a difference...
Mr. D. wrote: So Bob being a Fl resident buys 4 tickets with the discount legit since he is in fact a FL resident. He then invites Jim and his wife down from New York, and So Bob, his wife, Jim and his wife all go to Disney with Bob's ticket's. ALL 100% legit. No one scammed anyone, no one lied, no one stole anything. Bob bought the tickets, they are his, he can do whit them what he wants, and he choose to give them to his out of state friend while they were visiting.

No one said it wasn't dishonest. But it is a no harm, no foul situation. And there is absolutely NO HARM.

If you and others don''t see that, then you never will. Hard to see the real world living so high up on that cloud?
If you were to read the fine print, I'm sure it says that in order to use a FL resident discount ticket, you must be a resident of the state of Florida, not just visiting from out of town. There is harm, if enough people do this, then Disney will cease the program. Disney (and others) have these programs to draw in locals, who will hopefully spend money at the restaurants and shops. It's better to have a regular then the occassional traveler who only goes once maybe twice in their life. Not to mention you are lying. By attempting to use the ticket, you have told Disney that you are a FL resident. Just because you buy something does not mean it is yours to do with as you please, you enter into a contract and must abide by the terms of the contract. Now, I could be wrong, I'm not a lawyer, but we do have one so I'll defer to him. Oh, he is a prosecutor as well, not in FL, but I'd still listen to him. Although Zazu has already pointed out that what you describe is a against teh law. He's a smart guy who has probably looked into this a time or two...


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Post by Ice Bear » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:29 pm

Cheshire Figment wrote:No. Those tickets (as well as the 21-Day Ultimate) cannot be made into No Expire as they are not Magic Your Way Tickets but are special deeply discounted tickets.
Thank you. I will just keep booking at the WDW side.
O and MR.D. I pay 800 Dollars a night for a room and get a much soft AND ALCOHOLIC DRINKS I WANT FOR FREE.
I suppose in you're world I should be killed for this. :D:



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Post by avengador1 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:34 pm

Looks like Mr. D will not be gracing this forum anymore. :D:



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Post by Darksin » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:45 pm

Mr. D. wrote: Fair. So Bob being a Fl resident buys 4 tickets with the discount legit since he is in fact a FL resident. He then invites Jim and his wife down from New York, and So Bob, his wife, Jim and his wife all go to Disney with Bob's ticket's. ALL 100% legit. No one scammed anyone, no one lied, no one stole anything. Bob bought the tickets, they are his, he can do whit them what he wants, and he choose to give them to his out of state friend while they were visiting.






No one said it wasn't dishonest. But it is a no harm, no foul situation. And there is absolutely NO HARM.

Oddly enough, many years ago this happened to my mother when she purchased tickets for family who was coming to visit. Mind you, this is long before the internet could be used for such things like ticket purchases.

She went down to the park and asked for the tickets, they sold her FL Resident tickets since she was purchasing them and was a resident. After family got into town, we all went together. It wasn't a scam or someone trying to get something for cheap, it was what the CM gave her at the ticket window. When we all got to Magic Kingdom there was some confusion, it was all sorted out and Disney simply exchanged the tickets. Again, an honest mistake made on both parts of the CM (giving FL resident tickets) and my mom (for not stating she needed something specific other then four tickets).

So yes, I suppose that situation does happen simply because not everyone would think of it or ask if there is a difference.
However doing it willingly is taking your own risk on possibly being denied entrance to the parks. If you want to take that risk, who are we to stop you? It's not anyone's problem but your own if you run into problems later trying to use those tickets.
Yes, some think it's cheating and dishonest but frankly people are always going to try and do it anyway.
Yes, some think it's a completely silly topic to argue since no one is going to change anyone's mind and we're all just going to get mad about it. Thus the ensuing shit-storm currently brewing overhead of this entire topic.
:rolleyes:

It's the internet folks and we've all got opinions but your never going to change someone's mind once it's made up. So rather then fight about it, I'm just going to walk away from this one and mark it down as "Topics to be left alone because everyone get's pissy about it and we look like Board X-Y-Z".

Now, if you will all excuse me. I'm going to go poke my nose around and try to find out how the soft open of the new Fantasyland area went today. I'll check back in a few days to see if you've all calmed down yet. :cool:


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Post by Main Streeter » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:47 am

avengador1 wrote:Looks like Mr. D will not be gracing this forum anymore. :D:
No kidding?? Really???? :cool: In the fine phrasing of hobie; "There is a god." ;)



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