Stupid Guest Tricks

hobie16 wrote:Got a link?

What???!!! You are an I T guy & much brighter than I. Go fetch. This was discussed yrs. ago on SGT board. I'll trudge to Google after I mail something. "Got a link?" Get real. :D:

Zazu wrote:Well, short version = Guests are Stupid.

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... See short version above.

Is there some reason you wanted me to read that four times? :D:

Goofyernmost wrote:Disney is aware of the abuses and is attempting to find a way to stop it. Do you think that will stop it? Maybe, but it won't be for lack of trying on the public's part.

Exactly. So essentially they're just making it harder for Guests to scam the system, but people will still find a way. The issues I have with the new mugs are a) it doesn't acknowledge WHY people are trying to scam the system in the first place (i.e., some Guests think refillable mugs are too expensive), and b) it makes it more difficult for non-scammers to have a pleasant, hassle-free vacation. But, whatever. It's Disney's money to waste, and Disney's Guests to piss off. I'm just glad I don't work in Concessions or Guest Services.

Zazu wrote:Well, short version = Guests are Stupid.

LOL, yeah! When I thought more about people trying to scan barcode attached to a cup possibly filled with liquid I realized that wouldn't be such a good idea!

So I emailed ValidFill with a few questions, posing as a potential vendor. Their public email address bounced back - said it didn't exist. I found an address for their main rep and emailed him, but he hasn't written me back yet.....

Leonard Kinsey
http://www.darksideofdisney.com

If you ever have an SG complain about the cost of soda, etc., you can always remind them that if people weren't always trying to scam the parks, things would be alot cheaper. See, there's this thing called "inventory", and the original reason for the barcodes was not only to track the amount of inventory in the back room, but also to help vendors catch instances of "shrinkage", AKA shoplifting and employee theft. Don't be surprised if you get a.) a dumb look from the SG, or b.) vehement protests that they didn't/don't do that when you explain this to them. They either can't wrap what few brain cells around such a concept--trust me, I've run across my fair share of people like that--or they think you're accusing them of being a thief. Makes you wonder about those that fall under b.)--must be guilty. As Shakespeare once said, "Methinks he doth protest too much."

felinefan wrote:If you ever have an SG complain about the cost of soda, etc., you can always remind them that if people weren't always trying to scam the parks, things would be alot cheaper. See, there's this thing called "inventory", and the original reason for the barcodes was not only to track the amount of inventory in the back room, but also to help vendors catch instances of "shrinkage", AKA shoplifting and employee theft. Don't be surprised if you get a.) a dumb look from the SG, or b.) vehement protests that they didn't/don't do that when you explain this to them. They either can't wrap what few brain cells around such a concept--trust me, I've run across my fair share of people like that--or they think you're accusing them of being a thief. Makes you wonder about those that fall under b.)--must be guilty. As Shakespeare once said, "Methinks he doth protest too much."

I never think it's a good idea to approach SGs to talk about "Shrinkage" :D:

DisneyMom wrote:I never think it's a good idea to approach SGs to talk about "Shrinkage" :D:

Especially in an unheated swimming pool ! :twisted:

felinefan wrote:If you ever have an SG complain about the cost of soda, etc., you can always remind them that if people weren't always trying to scam the parks, things would be alot cheaper. See, there's this thing called "inventory", and the original reason for the barcodes was not only to track the amount of inventory in the back room, but also to help vendors catch instances of "shrinkage", AKA shoplifting and employee theft. Don't be surprised if you get a.) a dumb look from the SG, or b.) vehement protests that they didn't/don't do that when you explain this to them. They either can't wrap what few brain cells around such a concept--trust me, I've run across my fair share of people like that--or they think you're accusing them of being a thief. Makes you wonder about those that fall under b.)--must be guilty. As Shakespeare once said, "Methinks he doth protest too much."

Truer words never spoken. I so totally agree with you on these points.

LeonardKinsey wrote:Exactly. So essentially they're just making it harder for Guests to scam the system, but people will still find a way.

And I'm sure Disney will have a solution to said people still finding ways to scam the system.

LeonardKinsey wrote:Exactly. So essentially they're just making it harder for Guests to scam the system, but people will still find a way. The issues I have with the new mugs are a) it doesn't acknowledge WHY people are trying to scam the system in the first place (i.e., some Guests think refillable mugs are too expensive), and b) it makes it more difficult for non-scammers to have a pleasant, hassle-free vacation. But, whatever. It's Disney's money to waste, and Disney's Guests to piss off. I'm just glad I don't work in Concessions or Guest Services.

I think the "why" shouldn't be overthought. People do it because they think they can. Everything else is just rationalization on their part. Basically, whenever there is a big pool of something people want, some of the people will try to get it for free. The bigger the pool, the greater the number of people. Unfortunately, it is one of those unwinnable wars -- not a single engagement. You can't really even drop out of the war, though, as a vendor. People won't stop coming up with better ways to beat the system just because a vendor stops coming up with ways to block it. You'll just lose more. The best you can do is combat the tricks as best you can as you discover them. Sometimes it's not cost effective, but you just have to keep looking for something that works, knowing all the while that it won't work for everything or forever.

Hmmm. Sounds like I've strayed into :eeyore: territory. :p:

LeonardKinsey wrote:
LOL, yeah! When I thought more about people trying to scan barcode attached to a cup possibly filled with liquid I realized that wouldn't be such a good idea!

We do that now at both Blizzard Beach and at Typhoon Lagoon, and we allow them to buy just the sticker instead of a new mug. I did get called a non-disney name under a guest's breath for placing the current sticker over the old sticker. I got over it.

CptnSkippy wrote:I did get called a non-disney name under a guest's breath for placing the current sticker over the old sticker. I got over it.

Marvin the Martian? Foghorn Leghorn? Pepé Le Pew? Taz? Some are okay but I draw the line at Foghorn Leghorn. :mad: