New turnstile technology being tested

[Shorty82]

My money (and Mickey's) says it's about cutting the staffing requirements at the turnstiles. Less secure, but we make it up in volume!

My understanding is that (at least right now) they use the same amount of staff. Less are needed to operate the turnstiles but the rest are used to run interference to prevent people just running through.

[kurtisnelson]

Also from what I hear (I think I read it on this site actually) that Disney will be putting all guest info on the RFID tags including name, CC#, Room number (if staying on property), DOB, ect, to help characters interact with them. That is information I don't want to give to anyone walking around the park with a reader in their pocket.

None of this stuff actually goes on the RFID sticker. All RFID does is broadcast a number when exposed to a magic frequency. That number is then looked up in a database by the computer and associated with all that information.
As far as RFID credit cards go, yes, you can clone a credit card's RFID very easily, but you don't get the actual number, just a massive chunk of hardware that can be used as the RFID of the credit card. As long as vendors don't let people wave sketchy bundles of wires as a credit card, you are safe.

[Shorty82]

None of this stuff actually goes on the RFID sticker. All RFID does is broadcast a number when exposed to a magic frequency. That number is then looked up in a database by the computer and associated with all that information.

This is what I figured. There's no reason to try to put a bunch of custom info on the chip when all you need to do is use standard RFID chips and tie the chip's number to the information in a database. It's more secure, cheaper, easier to program and easier to change the information this way.

[Mr. D.]

As far as RFID credit cards go, yes, you can clone a credit card's RFID very easily, but you don't get the actual number, just a massive chunk of hardware that can be used as the RFID of the credit card. As long as vendors don't let people wave sketchy bundles of wires as a credit card, you are safe.

And what's to keep someone from getting that info and putting it on another card then using that card. RFID info theft is real and it is being used to steal peoples ID's credit card info ect. Don't drop your guard thinking it is safer then traditional magnetic strip cards. When someone can just walk past me and steal my info, no mater how encrypted it may be, that is less secure then them having to attempt to physically take my card from my pocket.

[delsdad]

And what's to keep someone from getting that info and putting it on another card then using that card. RFID info theft is real and it is being used to steal peoples ID's credit card info ect. Don't drop your guard thinking it is safer then traditional magnetic strip cards. When someone can just walk past me and steal my info, no mater how encrypted it may be, that is less secure then them having to attempt to physically take my card from my pocket.

One of our news stations did an expose on this last year. They had a security expert set up a rfid reader recorder in a briefcase or purse. When the reporter walked through the mall, the machine binged whenever it recorded a new rfid. It binged a lot. The data varied from peoples door access cards to credit card data. And a lot of poeple use the "tap and go" pay pass cards at the gas stations, which were very easy to read. I took the wind out of the sails of an advertising campaign by one of the banks, which was touting how secure and convenient the rfid credit cards were. i think visa then cancelled plans to roll out rfid cards at most of the banks. Only one visa carrier here (royal Bank ?) still has rfid, however it is pretty common in mastercards.
If my bank adds RFID to my visa, I will be switching to a different bank. Its bad enough that they went to the chip cards. they require only a 4 digit pin, no signature. This means it is impossible to prove that you didn't make the transaction if the person who cloned the card managed to see your pin as you entered it. they claim it is moe secure, but really? It just gets the bank off the hook if your card is cloned and your pin stolen.

[Zazu]

My understanding is that (at least right now) they use the same amount of staff. Less are needed to operate the turnstiles but the rest are used to run interference to prevent people just running through.

Now, yes. But eventually they'll offload those work hours to Security, and Park Ops will reap the savings.

For more insight on how the Company operates, read Machiavelli. Also "Dilbert".

[5th Dimension]

I don't think the slow down is due to the turnstile itself, it's due to people not understanding which finger, or how the fingerprint scanner works. That is still part of the process.

[DisneyMom]

So, do those Aluminum cases they sell prevent your card's data from being stolen work? Can I just wrap my wallet in Aluminum Foil?

[Mr. D.]

So, do those Aluminum cases they sell prevent your card's data from being stolen work? Can I just wrap my wallet in Aluminum Foil?

Yes they work, I have one myself. I put my work ID in it and waved it at the time clock. No beep.

[DonutGoddess]

Yes they work, I have one myself. I put my work ID in it and waved it at the time clock. No beep.

When I got my Sun Pass they gave out a special bag to put the Sun Pass if for some reason you had it in your car and didn't want to use it.