Stupid Guest Tricks

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:Gotta agree there, unless there is a violation of California or Flordia law, security screening at DLR and WDW is purely a private situation with rules designated by the parks, a private company.

granted, they can ban people from the property, but jail?

I assume that the comment was hyperbole.

If they don't leave after being told to they are guilty of trespass which will result in their arrest.

Shorty82 wrote:If they don't leave after being told to they are guilty of trespass which will result in their arrest.

Which I know happens.
I heard a SGT from someone in security about a guy who after refusing the bag check tons finally told OCPD they could search his bag. Inside was a brick of drugs.

CA Screamin Dude wrote:I can't attest to WDW whatsoever, but DLR's screening is quite a joke. Let's just say under controlled circumstances, many prohibited items have gotten through.

SCMT = Stupid Cast Member Trick; in today's Disney, this happens fairly often, yet not close to the volume of SGTs.

Isn't bag screening at DLR done by operations, not Security??

mapo

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:Gotta agree there, unless there is a violation of California or Flordia law, security screening at DLR and WDW is purely a private situation with rules designated by the parks, a private company.

granted, they can ban people from the property, but jail?

I assume that the comment was hyperbole.

Nope, not hyperbole.

First, think who is at Security Screening besides Security, guests, and those ducks at MK???

Second, while a private organization that is inspecting/screening guests for entry, certain comments made in a public space gets you in big trouble fast.

You think saying FIRE in a crowded room gets ya in trouble?? Imagine what can get you in more trouble and jailed.

Sorry. This is left to your imagination. Enjoy

mapo

Grumpy... you mean to tell me no one you've 'met' has talked themselves into a citation or worse, an arrest?

If the guy is SG enough to do something like that, he's likely enough of an SG get himself in trouble with a deputy, too.

mapo wrote:Isn't bag screening at DLR done by operations, not Security??

mapo

It's done by Admissions, so, yes, Operations.

CptnSkippy wrote:Grumpy... you mean to tell me no one you've 'met' has talked themselves into a citation or worse, an arrest?

If the guy is SG enough to do something like that, he's likely enough of an SG get himself in trouble with a deputy, too.

I have arrested many a person for a felony. and yes, they talk themselves into it. but the informmation and situation posted dosn't come close to an arrestable offense.

if a person is refusing a security screening by a private company. they can be denied entry. and sure they can be banned. but arresting for trepass because they refuse a screening dosn't sound like a good arrest. and by that I mean one that will result in a conviction.

(there are exceptions, such as presenting yourself for entry into the united states at a border port of entry at a land, airport point of entry, or a seaport, or , in the news lately, security screeners at an airport, but that is to a federal office and not a private security company)

I do know that often a person will keep talking (usually alcohol fuled) and thus violate another law. (public nuscience, etc. depending on local laws)

and of course, the universal "contempt of cop" charge, which is technically called (among other things) as refusing to obey a police officer, interfearing with a police officers duties, and so on.

private security, no matter what you call them, not so much.

mapo wrote:Isn't bag screening at DLR done by operations, not Security??

mapo

Which is precisely why DLR's screening is a joke.

And as was mentioned, a good arrest for trespass doesn't often include refusing a private Co.'s entry screening. A private-level bar usually is the suggested remedy in the event of further misconduct, in addition to the simple denied entry for a refused search. Maybe a detaining (on the private level) as opposed to an outright arrest. Such a relatively minor trespass generally isn't as much of a public issue as it is a private one.

I don't know about the west coast, but at MK and the other parks, it seems there is almost always an Orange County Sheriff around close by the screening point. Nice thing about that, if someone should get themselves to doing something that makes them eligible for arrest... :D:

APD hangs out in Downtown Disney, and sometimes are seen backstage....but I haven't seen them hanging around screening any time I've been there.