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Re: "Hay" isn't for horses anymore, it's to wake me up from a dead sleep

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:46 am
by GRUMPY PIRATE
Having worked with many people of filipino decent, I would say that a response like that is a bit out of line. MANY of them gave their lives fighting the japanese right alongside American troops during world war two.

I served with several who were second, and sometimes third generation servicemen who would sign up, even though they were not american citizens, nor was it promised to them.

The incident described, in some areas of the world, is the normal way to get the attention of a worker or someone in charge. She may not have thought it was disrespectful.

(or she was an SG, which seemsto have no racial or ethnic boundries!)

Re: "Hay" isn't for horses anymore, it's to wake me up from a dead sleep

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:18 pm
by Lasolimu
GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:The incident described, in some areas of the world, is the normal way to get the attention of a worker or someone in charge. She may not have thought it was disrespectful.

(or she was an SG, which seemsto have no racial or ethnic boundries!)
It may be the way to get someones attention in their culture, but she is still an SG. Another guest was being helped at the time and she interrupted.

Re: "Hay" isn't for horses anymore, it's to wake me up from a dead sleep

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:49 pm
by felinefan
I'm sure most of us have thought of something they would love to say to a SG, but in hindsight, it wasn't appropriate. You're right, lots of Filipinos fought the Japanese. And as a person of German descent, if someone called me a Nazi I'd kick their tail into the next county, because most Germans (and Austrians) in the 30s and 40s didn't share Hitler's bloody ideals. They just went along with it because they needed to survive. And most young people who were in Hitler Youth joined out of peer pressure. They also didn't agree with Hitler. But since they had no way of escaping, it was float along with what was going on or risk getting your front door kicked in while you're sleeping, and being dragged off to a concentration camp.

That said, I have nothing against Filipinos; it's just when somebody is being rude like that woman was--and for all I know, she could've been something else--but how many of us put a filter on our brains when we have someone rude in our face and something pops into our minds? My mom was quite knowledgable of both the Civil War and World War II. Her hometown was about an hour's drive from Gettysburg, and she was 10 years old when Pearl Harbor was bombed. One of mom's great-uncles, my second cousin, was killed on Iwo Jima, after the flag raising; he was there to keep the island from falling back into enemy hands. We still have his graduation photo, medals--including a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star--plus the letters his parents recieved notifying them of his death (taken out by a sniper in a pillbox).
I also need to point out that my mom was a bigot, and I am trying to get that taint out of me. She'd probably freak if she knew I was renting a room from a Vietnamese couple, though she had a very nice Vietnamese co-worker when she worked at Lockheed. And when my dad was in the Army, he was stationed at Manila from 1954-55, before I was born.

I try my best now not to think that way; if someone does something stupid, I think to myself that they are very foolish, with no modifiers added.

Re: "Hay" isn't for horses anymore, it's to wake me up from a dead sleep

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:20 am
by Big Wallaby
felinefan wrote:I also need to point out that my mom was a bigot, and I am trying to get that taint out of me. She'd probably freak if she knew I was renting a room from a Vietnamese couple, though she had a very nice Vietnamese co-worker when she worked at Lockheed. And when my dad was in the Army, he was stationed at Manila from 1954-55, before I was born.

I try my best now not to think that way; if someone does something stupid, I think to myself that they are very foolish, with no modifiers added.
I am suddenly reminded of Gran Turino. Coolest Dirty Harry type movie ever.

If you haven't seen it, go do so. Actually, by now I think you can probably rent it.

Re: "Hay" isn't for horses anymore, it's to wake me up from a dead sleep

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:03 am
by hobie16
Big Wallaby wrote:I am suddenly reminded of Gran Turino. Coolest Dirty Harry type movie ever.

If you haven't seen it, go do so. Actually, by now I think you can probably rent it.
It came out today.