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Re: Banned Disney Cartoons
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:12 pm
by Goofyernmost
Amphigorey wrote:If you mean a look back at racial attitudes in the 1940s, then yes. If you mean a look at what life was like on Southern plantations post-Reconstruction, then uh no, not so much. Really, really not so much.
I was referring to racial
attitudes. That includes the
perception of post-reconstruction represented in Song of the South. It's all the same thing.
Re: Banned Disney Cartoons
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:57 pm
by Cheshire Figment
One thing about that DVD set. I caught Donald Duck cheating on his income taxes.
3:26 into "Spirit of 41" where Donald is talking about the importance of filing your income taxes, on his Form 1040 under dependents he lists Huey, Dewey, and Louie as "Adopted".
As relatives living with him for the entire year he is entitled to claim them as dependents, but by putting down they were adopted either he was cheating or they have been misdiscribed for years.
And yes, only a CPA would catch something like that.
Re: Banned Disney Cartoons
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:55 am
by Big Wallaby
So I wonder then, did the story change? Maybe something happened to their parents and he did wind up adopting them.
Speaking of taxes, it would have been nice if we could have claimed our housemates' daughter, except that she has to be blood related. Other than that one little smudge, she fit all other criteria.
Re: Banned Disney Cartoons
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:04 am
by Cheshire Figment
Big Wallaby wrote:So I wonder then, did the story change? Maybe something happened to their parents and he did wind up adopting them.
Speaking of taxes, it would have been nice if we could have claimed our housemates' daughter, except that she has to be blood related. Other than that one little smudge, she fit all other criteria.
Actually to be claimed as a dependent the person does not have to be related as long as they meet the four other dependency tests. They have to be related if you are claiming Head of Household status.
Several years ago I had to research this as a client had a girlfriend living with him all year who did not have any source of income and he supported her. He was entitled to claim her as a dependent but he had to file as Single and not HoH.
Re: Banned Disney Cartoons
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:15 pm
by felinefan
I think the fact that Donald and Mickey have nephews and Minnie and Daisy have nieces, it was kind of a no-sex-implied thing with Walt's Victorian values. Remember, when they made Fantasia, and in the "Afternoon of a Faun" number, Disney said no nipples on the centaurs. Funny how it was apparently okay for a cupid to basically moon the audience until his little buttcheeks morphed into a heart at the end.
If Mickey and Minnie were shown as a married couple, ditto with Donald and Daisy, with the nephews and nieces of each becoming their children, then that would've lead to some pretty un-Disney inferences, if that's the word I want. People have a tendency to do that. I'm guessing that Disney felt it would suit his purposes better for Mickey and Donald to be bachlors with girlfriends than married with children. I mean, I can just see some smart alecky pre-teen asking his parents how the birds and the bees fit in with Disney characters.....
Re: Banned Disney Cartoons
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:18 am
by Cheshire Figment
But about 15 years ago while on a (Disneyana Convention) tour of the Park Production Center we talked to the woman who made all the costumes for the 30 inch characters in windows and other displays.. She said that when she worked at DL one day Walt was talking to her and said that Mickey and Minnie are married (to each other) but they are actors and as such act as if they are not married so there are more parts they can play.
And the boys are definitely Donald's nephews since when they showed up Donald received a letter signed by his sister, Dumbella, asking him to take care of them for a while.