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Re: Do you care?

Post by Syndrome » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:37 pm

Ironically, most of these people who want to cheat the system for their benefit are the same ones who would probably scream, yell, and stamp their foot if they saw someone else doing it.

Pathetic when SGs teach their kids to lie. Those same kids grow up, kill someone on the road, then say, "Well, I was only a LITTLE drunk so I thought it would be okay" or "I didn't see anyone around so I thought it would be okay to run the stop sign."

It's not just this one incident but the farther reaching implications for what it teaches others.



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Re: Do you care?

Post by Goofyernmost » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:14 pm

I agree that the best way to deal with this is to just fess up. If the nice folks at Disney decide that for the difference of a few days, it just isn't worth the effort to change everything over, then so be it. Enjoy and be happy.

It wouldn't be possible, in my mind, to go through an entire trip constantly on guard that I might get caught. What a way to make the magic non-existant. It's not really the same as taking a quarter from a vending machine. This could add up to a lot of money over the course of a vacation. Confession is good for the soul.


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Re: Do you care?

Post by Princess Susi » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:24 pm

February wrote:Yes I care and what's more, I believe in karma.

Lie, cheat, steal, it'll come back to you in a much more expensive way.

Just pay for the freaking ticket and change hotels. Sheesh. Teach your kids to do the right thing for crying out loud, is it really that difficult? :confused:
I agree...Karma is the great equalizer and it WILL come back to them, sometime/somewhere in life.
Better to fess up and admit you made a mistake, other's here have it right. A very cool CM will most likely let it pass and *Make it a magic moment for them, like an upgrade of sorts* IF they are the kind of people that are deserving of them..

If you lie, that is hardly a magic moment. It is cheating the system and I feel very strongly about that. These are the same folks that probably expect every little freebie and perk and magic moments and complain when others get something they did not. If they don't see a towel animal on the bed, they cry and whine about it. They are setting up their own karma for what they receive.
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Re: Do you care?

Post by smart1hermione » Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:37 pm

First off, I think that Disney's ticketing ages are terrible. Are you really an adult at age 10? Considering how much money it is for kids who are even a day over the lower tier, I can understand why parents would want to lie. For the family question, the price difference would be a few hundred dollars.

But my rant about how expensive Disney is isn't the point.

Having kids lie for you is wrong, lying in general is wrong, and like hobie said, most CMs would be fine if you chalked it up to a simple mistake, which I'm sure they see A LOT.


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Re: Do you care?

Post by JugglingFreak » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:41 pm

smart1hermione wrote:First off, I think that Disney's ticketing ages are terrible. Are you really an adult at age 10?
No, it's that usually by that age the kids are tall enough to ride pretty much everything.. So if you can ride everything the adults can, you pay the same price.

At least that's the way I figured it..



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Re: Do you care?

Post by DLRFantasmic!Dan » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:55 pm

Here is what Disney should do, if the kid doesn't measure up to a minimum height requirement for the rides, then they shouldn't have to be pay a ticket. If they meet the height requirement, then they must buy a ticket. But, the thing is that most attractions don't have a height requirement.


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Re: Do you care?

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:36 am

Maybe they should measure the kids at the Ticket booth, then sell them either an "adult" ticket if the qualify to ride all the attractions, or a "Kids" ticket if they don't qualify! (It might save some CM's from having to argue with the parents AT the attraction!)


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Re: Do you care?

Post by Theme Park Where » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:31 am

That would create a nightmare for the ticketing agents. Guests would be holding up the line measuring their kids. Kids who are right on the borderline would either be measured as "tall enough" and sold adult tickets, then found later to not be able to ride something, or would be measured as "too short" only to find out later in the afternoon that they could ride, since kids tend to fluxuate in height during the day. Kids would still have to be measured to ride the rides to ensure they were proper height so it wouldn't change anything at the rides except to cause arguments of "look, he has an adult ticket! What do you mean he's too short to ride?!" Ages aren't based soley on height anyway. A child of 3 or more has more things they can actually participate in (playgrounds, characters, etc.) than a child 2 or younger, thus the child's ticket price. Even though he may not be tall enough for all rides, a 10 year old enjoys much more of the park than a younger child. Ten isn't a difinitive cut off of enjoyment of course, but they have to draw the line somewhere, and the choice was made to move the ticket age to 10 and up to be consistent with the dining age which always has been 3-9 for a child's price at buffets and character dining. Most children at 10 are tall enough for some, if not all, of the measured rides, and old enough to get more enjoyment out of the rest of the attractions.


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Re: Do you care?

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:43 am

Thats an easy fix, just set the limit at least two inches ABOVE the tallest requirement!!


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Re: Do you care?

Post by Elena (aka: Bubble Lady) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:10 pm

[font="Palatino Linotype"]it's really too bad that the age thing has changed so much...it used to be 3 and under was free...child was 4-12 and adult was 13 and over...ah, those were the days...

but let me say this too...my kids were really small (but talked very well...we couldn't take the chance that a cm might ask them how old they were...and, god help us, we taught them to tell the TRUTH)...but it didn't keep me from paying the correct entrance fee to get them in...we'd go during the summer and would just make sure to go before our daughter's birthday in august (the other 2 were born after summer)
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