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Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:34 pm
by smart1hermione
Mayonnaise wrote:Ok, I get why you're mad if people are ignoring their party or whatever, and there's no excuse AT ALL for being on the phone IN a ride or show, (or even preshow) but what's wrong with calling someone from a queue if you've got nothing better to do while waiting? Not everyone is there with kids to look after. If you haven't got a party of your own, or if your party are your adult friends who are talking to one another, or taking the opportunity to call home to their respective families, what's the big deal? It's not hurting anyone, and not causing any more noise than if you were talking to your party, should you have one... I'm confused on this one.

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You're right. The line is a far more acceptable place to talk on the phone than in a ride or a show. As long as the phone-user isn't a shouter [my parents are the biggest offenders] or isn't talking about a sensitive subject, they aren't SGs.

There are far too many line faux pas(-es?) in the world to avoid them all.

Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:47 pm
by Double T
smart1hermione wrote:How quickly would a guest be murdered if they decided to field a call on Nemo after waiting God knows how many hours?
No worries....as soon as you enter the sub, the service normally drops down to 1 or 2 bars....steadily dropping as you enter the caverns...and disappearing completely around the time you enter the EAC.

Yeah, I was immensely curious, so I put my cell phone in the sail by the console and kept glancing at it to see where service was lost.

I always tell guests as they're boarding that they lose service when the sub goes under. The phone is normally hung up by the time they reach the bottom of the stairs.

T

Edit: Oh, and I don't know how you guys do it out there on your coast (last time I was there, cell phones were still expensive bricks, so it wasn't a concern), but every time I see one, my spiel gets just a couple notches louder. Kinda like how when I see a sleeping baby, my spiel gets a couple notches quieter.

Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:48 pm
by thomaskr
Mayonnaise wrote:Ok, I get why you're mad if people are ignoring their party or whatever, and there's no excuse AT ALL for being on the phone IN a ride or show, (or even preshow) but what's wrong with calling someone from a queue if you've got nothing better to do while waiting? Not everyone is there with kids to look after. If you haven't got a party of your own, or if your party are your adult friends who are talking to one another, or taking the opportunity to call home to their respective families, what's the big deal? It's not hurting anyone, and not causing any more noise than if you were talking to your party, should you have one... I'm confused on this one.
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That, I suppose I could live with, but not for the entire duration of the lineup (you know how loud people on cell phones talk), and I've never seen one of these fabled "no family" individuals who go to WDW (even though I *ahem* did that once at DL on the tail end of a business trip...)

I dunno, I just think of WDW as "magical" and I find that I resent the intrusions that the regular world are making on it. I really felt dejected when I saw them paving roads leading up to the gates of the Magic Kingdom. When I was a kid, you took a monorail into a place which I assumed your average car could never get to. That was magical in a way. Totally undermined nowadays. Call me old-fashioned but there are certain things they should have left alone, like Peach Splashdowns.

Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:20 pm
by drcorey
They need to do like the movie theatres do. ads and stuff before the show.
"We don't interupt your phone call, Please don't interupt our show/ride, etc."

maybe some clips from the Princess Diaries of Ann Yelling, SHUT UP!

Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:33 pm
by thomaskr
drcorey wrote:They need to do like the movie theatres do. ads and stuff before the show.
"We don't interupt your phone call, Please don't interupt our show/ride, etc."

maybe some clips from the Princess Diaries of Ann Yelling, SHUT UP!
I like that idea. A "no cell phones" sign at the entrance to the ride would be nice. Oh, totally remembered seeing a boat exiting the final turn at It's a Small World coming into debarking and a person's phone going off. Completely forgot about the nuisance that is a ringing cell phone during a ride.

Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:52 pm
by Theme Park Where
thomaskr wrote:That, I suppose I could live with, but not for the entire duration of the lineup (you know how loud people on cell phones talk), and I've never seen one of these fabled "no family" individuals who go to WDW (even though I *ahem* did that once at DL on the tail end of a business trip...)
Then you've never seen me at the parks. I go by myself quite often. I enjoy the time to explore without having to follow someone else's agenda. I also ocassionally use my cell phone to speak with friends or other family members while I'm killing time waiting for parades, in a prolonged wait (like outside waiting for a show to load), etc. I'm quiet and don't discuss inappropriate topics, ususally just discussing my day and what I've seen so far and what I still plan to do. If an attraction has a preshow or a highly themed queue, I don't use the phone. I certainly turn it off in attractions. Even on silent mode, I tend to turn it all the way off in shows. But handsfree bluetooth does give me the ability to talk to friends and family and share the park with them when they aren't with me, or when I want to share an experience.

I've had a couple of cell phone conversations that have actually added to the day. My brother called just as Wishes was starting to tell my Dad that my nephew had just been born. It was about 2 minutes before the lights went out, and Dad answered the phone since caller ID showed it was my brother and we knew my SIL was due any day. He got as far as a name and weight and the show started so he couldn't hear anything else. He said we'd call back, told us what the call was about, and all three of us cried through the whole show! It was particularly special because it was before I had moved back to the area permanantly and my brother didn't know I was there with my folks.

On another visit, I had just lost my job and had come back to Orlando to visit my parents while I decided what to do. I had applied for a job and got the call with an offer while I was playing at MK. I excused myself from the crowd and went to a more quiet place to take the call. Then I spent the rest of the day in the park on cloud nine, since it now seemed that everything was going to be ok. I had been worried that I wouldn't be able to find a job in the hospitality industry again, since it was right after 9/11.

Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:02 pm
by February
but what's wrong with calling someone from a queue if you've got nothing better to do while waiting?
Mayo, I'm confused why you're confused LOL. It's already established etiquette that it's rude to yak on your phone in public spaces around other people- that's why doctors offices, some stores, and many restaurants now ban them- along with theaters of course It's just that people pay no mind.

What's wrong with it? It's freaking rude.

I do not want to hear your grocery list, your laundry list, and no I don't want to hear you shouting "Hey look, I see you over there in line at the gift shop! Look at us, how cool are we everyone in our family has cell phones!"

It was worse to me (louder) before people started texting more in public- those damned Nokia phones with their *(!(&^ beeping every two seconds. I was happy to see that cell phone use actually seemed to be down on our last trip- and I don't understand why WDW can't put in designated cell use areas- like when they used to have banks of pay phones and if you wanted to use them, you had to go find them.

Unless you're the president, you should be able to go to WDW without having to talk in line for Peter Pan. And if you are president, you won't have to wait in line for Peter Pan so it's a moot point :p:

People tend to yell a lot louder into cell phones than they do when talking to people next to them. that's my beef with it. I don't want to hear anyone yelling, period, on my very expensive vacation.

There's a story in my SG thread from our trip about a woman who literally turned on her phone the moment the film started at One Man's Dream. There were no CM's to be found- and this woman ruined the show for everyone.

I'm happy to report that her urgent business though of phoning her daughter at home and saying that she would stop for what she wanted at the store on the way was handled in the emergent manner that it deserved. :mad: She could have made that call anywhere else in the freaking studios, but she had to do it in the theater.

Sakes.

Unless it's an emergency, there is only one time I ever use the cell phones near the parks or on the way to. But I have a good reason.

One of my sisters is housebound and cannot travel to WDW anymore. Her favorite park is the Studios and she and i have wonderful memories there together.

The past couple of trips- I call her from the bus as we pull up at the studios- I talk very softly to her (so as not to disturb those guests around me) then, as we go through the turnstiles, security, and all, I leave my phone open, in my lap, so that she can hear the sounds of the park as we go in 'together'.

Then once we're inside, I give her a little description of the weather, what we plan to do then say goodbye. Then I always call her back briefly from outside the building at Star Tours so she can hear the music.

So maybe, sometimes, there is a reason people have for using a cell phone in the park. But I never use one on an attraction or in a queue, or anything like that.

You know, I just realized for the first time how sad it makes me that my sister can't go to WDW anymore and all I can do is call her from the studios. :(

I noticed the blue tooth thing was so huge last trip- fathers mostly ignoring their kids (who were mostly busy texting anyway) and the wives just staring out the window of the monorail/into the distance while in the park/at the menu in a restaurant. Once there was a little boy I saw in line for the bakery on main street- he was with his father, from what I couldn't help overhearing, (as did everyone else in the place) he was a 'weekend dad' on a trip with his kid but he was so tied to his work he couldn't even buy a sticky bun in WDW without ignoring him the whole time to talk about work. The poor kid looked like he was about to cry (he was about 8 or so, I'd estimate, old enough to realize he was being ignored)

Bru

Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:20 pm
by BRWombat
I'm still waiting for localized cell phone jammers to be legalized.

Thomaskr, you jumped in on several posts pretty quickly, so this is as good a place as any to say...

:welcome: to :sgt: from :wallaby: and :wombat: !!! :D: :D: :D:

Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:25 pm
by Mayonnaise
February wrote:Mayo, I'm confused why you're confused LOL. It's already established etiquette that it's rude to yak on your phone in public spaces around other people- that's why doctors offices, some stores, and many restaurants now ban them- along with theaters of course It's just that people pay no mind.
I suppose it's because I was taught it was rude to use your cell phone anywhere it's rude to talk, and rude to shout into your cellphone, and rude to put the cell phone over real live people trying to talk to you, perform a show, hear a movie or speil, but not that it was rude to use a cell phone anywhere there are other people. How is it worse for you to hear my grocery list when I'm talking to the phone than if I were to have other people with me and talk to them about it?

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Re: Rude guests and their cell phones...

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:36 pm
by SRT_GB
Don't see the problem with people talking on the cell while in line unless it comes at the expense of paying attention to the kids (which I see too often). To me it just blends into the background noise, and is often drowned out by all the other people in line having conversations with their party. But talking on the phone while on a ride or in a show? What's the point of going on the ride or watching the show?