Stupid Guest Tricks

If I had one wish, it would be that this board was not necessary because that means that people would follow the rules and be polite, which would make all of our lives easier and everybody's vacation more fun. We could then turn this place in to the Disney Pixie Dust board where we can talk about all of the cool Magical Moments we get to do now that the guests are behaving themselves and be our usual distractable selves.

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:We should look on articles like that in a positive way, in regards to SGT!

If enough people read that article, and even if only a few believe that you can ignore rules, then there will be a LOT more SG stories posted here!!

But in the end, is it worth the sanity of the CMs due to an influx of additional SGs?

the article was biased and writteng only from an anti-amusement-park way of thinking. There is informative journalism where they uncover the underside of something but this did not show facts to support his hatred for Disney.

I tried to read the article. I really did. About halfway down the first page, I was going crazy wanting to quite verbosely and in no inexact terms tell the writer what an idiot he is. But I didn't. He probably would be the type to be too well-educated to understand what I was saying.

Please don't read that to knock education... just his education.

After spending the past five days here, I've come to the conclusion that Disney World teaches kids three things: 1) a meaningless, bubble-headed utopianism, 2) a grasping, whining consumerism, and 3) a preference for soulless facsimiles of culture and architecture instead of for the real thing. I suppose it also teaches them that monorails are cool. So there's that.

This guy really pisses me off. What bug crawled up his ass? So what if Disney is very consumeristic. Find me a place that isn't! It makes me so mad that he patronizes what we do, and what we like. I don't consider us a cult. I consider us a group of people that likes similar things. We don't force it on anyone else. It would be different if I set up a booth in the subway station and said "Hello Brother! Today I'm talking about the Disney Faith! Would you be interested in attending a timeshare presentation?"
I don't think so...
You don't like it, leave. Less people to wait behind.

Hehehe, I'm still laughing at the fact that you called him a "dink" :D:

You think that guy is bad. You should read Inside the Mouse: Work and Play at Disney World by "The Project on Disney".

This is the most (unintentionally) hilarious book on Disney I've ever read.

The "Project" is a group of people from Duke university who are all self-admitted marxist who then attack the "consumerism" of Disney and basically imply that if you like Disney then you are shallow and a capitalist tool.

If you see it a you local library, it would be worth checking out just to read some of the ridiculous criticism of people (such as berating a local AP holder who liked to go to Epcot to "peoplewatch".)

I wouldn't waste money buying it though..

http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Mouse-Disn ... 0822316242

I don't know what's more ridiculous - this guy's pre-established bias against Disney, or the fact that he (or his company) must have spent thousands of dollars for him to spend a week at WDW, thereby supporting the very Disney consumerism he whines about.

And after writing his whole whine about consumerism and all that stuff, I'm sure he went shopping at non-consumerist Wal-Mart, had lunch at non-consumerist McDonald's inside same Wal-Mart, then bought some pretentious, non-consumerist Starbucks Coffee, and then went off trying to indoctrinate more apostles to his anti-Disney religion in much the same way Disney indoctrinates toddlers into its cult, as he describes it.

The only good that I see from articles like that, is that like-minded people who read it and agree with the author, will STAY AWAY from DLR and WDW, thus making more room for the rest of us to enjoy the magic!!

hehehehe

JugglingFreak wrote:You think that guy is bad. You should read Inside the Mouse: Work and Play at Disney World by "The Project on Disney".

This is the most (unintentionally) hilarious book on Disney I've ever read.

The "Project" is a group of people from Duke university who are all self-admitted marxist who then attack the "consumerism" of Disney and basically imply that if you like Disney then you are shallow and a capitalist tool.

If you see it a you local library, it would be worth checking out just to read some of the ridiculous criticism of people (such as berating a local AP holder who liked to go to Epcot to "peoplewatch".)

I wouldn't waste money buying it though..

http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Mouse-Disn ... 0822316242

I disagree with your assessment of the book, but I don't think it's the best academic treatise on Disney. By far the best is Vinyl Leaves: Walt Disney World and America by Stephen M. Fjellman. It's a sociological treatise on Walt Disney World, and he looks at EVERYTHING, from the pneumatic garbage disposal to the shops on Main Street to the resorts. It helps to have taken at least one class in sociology (especially if you've read The Social Construction of Reality), but you don't have to be an academic to get a lot out of it.

One thing I love about the book is that while Fjellman is clearly a huge fan of Disney, he doesn't shy away from deep criticism. I don't mean criticism in the pop-culture negative sense; I mean in the sense of incisive analysis. His reading of Disney is much more complex and interesting than either the nay-sayers who say Disney is all bad or the people who are blinded by pixie dust.

Thing is, Disney IS consumerist and capitalist. It's a moneymaking business; what else would it be, if not capitalist? And they certainly encourage consumption on a massive scale; look at all the space they have devoted to gift shops. It's also a source of much art and culture. It's a big, complex thing, and to really understand it you have to look at all aspects of it - and yes, that includes criticizing Epcot for promoting bizarre corporate ideals of the future. :P