Ignorance to the Nth degree

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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by hobie16 » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:42 am

Cranbiz wrote:A real man will never use the front door! :D:
A box has six sides. One side has a door that is locked and guarded. It cannot be used to enter the box. How do you get in? Think about a direct, indirect, divisional or containment strategy.


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Post by Cheshire Figment » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:44 am

(And please notice the date on my response)

From: <[email protected]>
To Whom It May Concern,
I have been paying close attention to Disney's support for "gays". This is something that I cannot support. I would like to have a letter from Disney explaining your position, so that I do not have my facts wrong.

I am a father of a AAU competitor in the sport of Karate. I work as a coach and we bring a team from Alaska to AAU national events. My Daughter just returned from New Orleans La where she and I saw that AAU and Disney are partners.

I would hate to see an entire boycott of AAU against Disney, But your public support for gays is just something me and my family cannot be surrounded by.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

Edward A. Burke
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Anchorage, Alaska 99501
907-522-8921
907-277-7424

Below is my response:

From: Mike Tuchman
To: [email protected] Msg #1547, 18 Aug 96 07:15:00
Subject: Gay protest

Sir (and I use the term loosely):

The Walt Disney Company (and consolidated subsidiaries) supports gays in the same way it supports, whites, blacks, Asians, arabs, native Americans, Christians, Jews, Moslems, Hindu, Shinto, handicapped, and any other group you can think of. In other words, it follows all non-discrimination laws and all non-discriminatory morals.

They even allow bigots; this means you!

By the way, neither I, nor my wife Judy, are gay. However, we have friends, co-workers and even relatives who are gay. One of my closest friends, who I have known for 35 years, recently had a sex change operation. (This concept must really scare the pants off you.)

Since you are active in the AAU, why don't you ask the association's headquarters if there are any rules or restriction concerning membership of gays in the organization. Also, why don't you ask them if there are any statistics or estimates as to gays in the membership.

Once you do that, as such a homophobe you should resign from the AAU as it does accept gays.

If you have not seen Hunchback, why don't you go to a very good movie which teaches a moral called tolerance, which you seem to not have. Even better, why don't you pack up your computer, move about 1,000 miles north, and stay in a place where nothing (except maybe a hungry polar bear) can bother you.

You have raised a good question which tells the world about you. I think you will get responses from a lot of people about your bigotry; it may be curable.

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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by goofyjoe » Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:00 am

hobie16 wrote: Image
It looks like Chewbacca escaped from Star Tours; has he made it back to Kashykk for Life Day?

(Bonus points to anyone who gets the reference.)


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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:59 pm

hobie16 wrote:A box has six sides. One side has a door that is locked and guarded. It cannot be used to enter the box. How do you get in? Think about a direct, indirect, divisional or containment strategy.
Nothing is impossible, with a little thinking, ingenuity, and proper use of a small amount of explosives!!!


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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by Big Wallaby » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:24 pm

Cheshire, I have just one issue on your letter: it's not tolerance, has nothing to do with tolerance. It's about respecting another human being as a human being. It's acceptance of the things that you don't have the power to change. I've had plenty of gay friends, and many of them walk a very tough road, what with the family and former friends that disown them, the feelings they have of being different, the fear before they come out. I would never wish the difficulty experienced by those I know on anyone. I don't really believe it's so much a choice for most, but something you either are or aren't naturally, depending on your genetics. Now, how you respond is up to you. But to suppress something like that is unhealthy, and I know so many do.

And for the people who use their beliefs that I share to bash people, was it James Dobson who first introduced me to the idea of homosexuality being genetic, or some other Christian psychologist? I can't remember. But it was also in a conservative Christian school, and one of the most conservative teachers I've ever met. So to use religion to oppress over it is stupid.


So how were you in the position to be the one responding to that guy's letter?


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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by Purpura » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:41 pm

goofyjoe wrote:It looks like Chewbacca escaped from Star Tours; has he made it back to Kashykk for Life Day?

(Bonus points to anyone who gets the reference.)
I did, and you misspelled Kashyyyk. :)


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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by Cheshire Figment » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:43 pm

Big Wallaby wrote:So how were you in the position to be the one responding to that guy's letter?
This was on a Fidonet post; the predecessor to both UseNet and bulletin boards like this. He had posted it (publicly, including his name, address and phone numbers) in a forum that had worldwide reading.

It was 7:00 on a Sunday morning and for some reason I was up at that hour. I was not the only one flaming him, but I think I was the most polite.



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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:15 pm

Cheshire Figment wrote:This was on a Fidonet post; the predecessor to both UseNet and bulletin boards like this. He had posted it (publicly, including his name, address and phone numbers) in a forum that had worldwide reading.

It was 7:00 on a Sunday morning and for some reason I was up at that hour. I was not the only one flaming him, but I think I was the most polite.
You sure it was him that posted, and not someone that used his name and number to get back at him for something?


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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by DisneyMom » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:44 pm

Kwahati wrote:You're not a right wing nut job (well...I'm gonna forget about your views on guns right now so I can revel in agreeing with you! ;) ) You're an old-school conservative. I agree with most of what conservatives used to believe: smaller government, lower taxes. The right wing nut jobs now just want a government small enough to fit in your bedroom...

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In other news: I've figured out exactly what kind of liberal I am. All I want is your guns, your gas-guzzling cars and a reasonable amount of your money. In return, I'm promising you liberty, safety, education, and health care! I swear I can do it. Ask me how! :cool:

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Re: Ignorance to the Nth degree

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:18 pm

DisneyMom wrote:KWAHATI '08! :D:
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