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Re: Kid Jumps In JP Splashdown Pool

Post by TowerTimmy » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:43 pm

um ok. once again, most disney attractions dont have cameras. haunted mansion, fantasyland attractions, spaceship earth all dont have cameras. nice job being biased there and immature.

also, when you hit an estop on popeye or ripsaw, the entire ride drains, because that is the fastest way to stop the ride vehicles. when you hit an estop on splash? nothing happens. the belts stop, but that doesnt cause a free-floating boat to stop. also, ive heard of numerous disney instances where cast members are allowed into the ride track with ride vehicles still in operation. universal would never think of that. they always power down the attractions then lock out/tag out. also, talking to numerous disney cast members, it is not not required for the cm's to check lapbars. they now visually check, or ask the guest to pull up on the bars themselves. go check. go ride space mountain, and you will see that they do not pull up on the bars (even with the little handles) and they leave empty seats with the lapbars up. at universal, the team member would get in trouble for that.

everest doesnt check, space moutain, coaster. every ride with a harness does not get checked. who doesnt care now?

i love how this one video makes universal seem like the worst place in the world, when in fact, more deaths have occured at disney then at universal. its like disney never has anything wrong with it. if the disney freaks out there (like the poster above me) find somethign wrong with disney, they supress it in their mind and pretend it doesnt exist, then point out bad qualities about the competition. get a life and realize disney makes mistakes too. omg i cant believe i said that.

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Re: Kid Jumps In JP Splashdown Pool

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:47 pm

You need to chill a bit. if you read it, you would see that I was making a comment on the....

you know what, it dosn't matter, you just wanted a reason to rant.


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Post by CMGUY89 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:59 pm

TowerTimmy wrote:um ok. once again, most disney attractions dont have cameras. haunted mansion, fantasyland attractions, spaceship earth all dont have cameras. nice job being biased there and immature.

also, when you hit an estop on popeye or ripsaw, the entire ride drains, because that is the fastest way to stop the ride vehicles. when you hit an estop on splash? nothing happens. the belts stop, but that doesnt cause a free-floating boat to stop. also, ive heard of numerous disney instances where cast members are allowed into the ride track with ride vehicles still in operation. universal would never think of that. they always power down the attractions then lock out/tag out. also, talking to numerous disney cast members, it is not not required for the cm's to check lapbars. they now visually check, or ask the guest to pull up on the bars themselves. go check. go ride space mountain, and you will see that they do not pull up on the bars (even with the little handles) and they leave empty seats with the lapbars up. at universal, the team member would get in trouble for that.

everest doesnt check, space moutain, coaster. every ride with a harness does not get checked. who doesnt care now?

i love how this one video makes universal seem like the worst place in the world, when in fact, more deaths have occured at disney then at universal. its like disney never has anything wrong with it. if the disney freaks out there (like the poster above me) find somethign wrong with disney, they supress it in their mind and pretend it doesnt exist, then point out bad qualities about the competition. get a life and realize disney makes mistakes too. omg i cant believe i said that.

repeat.

disney. makes. mistakes.

nope, hell didnt raise up.
Ok key part is "RUMOR". None of us at The Land would be dumb enough to try and walk around without being tagged out. Some of those rides don't have cameras, but they do have pressure mats and IR beams. They are impossible to avoid, trust me, cockroaches set them off. Those attractions drain? That is stupid too! You realize that those boats honestly move about 5 miles an hour and can be stopped by one person holding on to them. The belts are the most dangerous part of the attractions. Also the key part a lot of Disney deaths is that they are caused by pre-existing conditions. Not within our control. If you are so happy at Universal, fine. But don't make us suffer for it. If that video was at Splash Mountain I can guarantee we would all be saying the same thing.


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Post by TowerTimmy » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:02 pm

ok listen. say in controls, they saw someone get out of the ride. theyed hit an estop. the ride drains to stop the motion of the boats on the ride. say that person who got out then accidently fell into the flume. if it didnt drain, they could have fallen in front of a moving vehicle and drowned. think about it. can you think?!?!? think?!?!?! damn i pretty much hate you people and i never want to post here again.


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Re: Kid Jumps In JP Splashdown Pool

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:04 pm

TowerTimmy wrote:ok listen. say in controls, they saw someone get out of the ride. theyed hit an estop. the ride drains to stop the motion of the boats on the ride. say that person who got out then accidently fell into the flume. if it didnt drain, they could have fallen in front of a moving vehicle and drowned. think about it. can you think?!?!? think?!?!?! damn i pretty much hate you people and i never want to post here again.
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Re: Kid Jumps In JP Splashdown Pool

Post by CMGUY89 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:07 pm

TowerTimmy wrote:ok listen. say in controls, they saw someone get out of the ride. theyed hit an estop. the ride drains to stop the motion of the boats on the ride. say that person who got out then accidently fell into the flume. if it didnt drain, they could have fallen in front of a moving vehicle and drowned. think about it. can you think?!?!? think?!?!?! damn i pretty much hate you people and i never want to post here again.
For the love of God leave! You are miserable! Why the hell do come here?


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Re: Kid Jumps In JP Splashdown Pool

Post by drcorey » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:37 pm

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:I would think that it should have been the FIRST area to have cameras, knowing that there are dumbass SG's running around! Especially the splashdown area where the danger is greatest! Then again...its NOT a Disney attraction, so they don't care!!!
It wouldn't happen at Disney, thats a fursure.



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Re: Kid Jumps In JP Splashdown Pool

Post by drcorey » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:41 pm

TowerTimmy wrote:um ok. once again, most disney attractions dont have cameras. haunted mansion, fantasyland attractions, spaceship earth all dont have cameras. nice job being biased there and immature.

also, when you hit an estop on popeye or ripsaw, the entire ride drains, because that is the fastest way to stop the ride vehicles. when you hit an estop on splash? nothing happens. the belts stop, but that doesnt cause a free-floating boat to stop. also, ive heard of numerous disney instances where cast members are allowed into the ride track with ride vehicles still in operation. universal would never think of that. they always power down the attractions then lock out/tag out. also, talking to numerous disney cast members, it is not not required for the cm's to check lapbars. they now visually check, or ask the guest to pull up on the bars themselves. go check. go ride space mountain, and you will see that they do not pull up on the bars (even with the little handles) and they leave empty seats with the lapbars up. at universal, the team member would get in trouble for that.

everest doesnt check, space moutain, coaster. every ride with a harness does not get checked. who doesnt care now?

i love how this one video makes universal seem like the worst place in the world, when in fact, more deaths have occured at disney then at universal. its like disney never has anything wrong with it. if the disney freaks out there (like the poster above me) find somethign wrong with disney, they supress it in their mind and pretend it doesnt exist, then point out bad qualities about the competition. get a life and realize disney makes mistakes too. omg i cant believe i said that.

repeat.

disney. makes. mistakes.

nope, hell didnt raise up.
sounds like they need a new flume ride designer,
Drain the ride to stop it? Disney uses belts and gates.
tell them to ask Disney how to build a flume ride properlly.



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Re: Kid Jumps In JP Splashdown Pool

Post by ktulu » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:07 pm

Story time!

Once in the not so distant past (last Saturday), a family of three were riding a boat ride called Pirates of the Caribbean. Upon entering the scene where the three pirates are on the left in a row singing and playing instruments (fire scene?), our boat was stopped in the middle of the canal by something coming up and obstructing our forward movement. This appeared to be some sort of safety device. A CM made very quick announcements to other CMs (sounded like power down/power up) and someone else spieled for us to stay in the boats and we'd be moving soon. Then, the ride restarted and the obstruction was gone and we moved forward. Sounds like Disney figured out a way to stop movement of boats without the time consuming draining of the ride. Seriously, these things have tons of water in them, I can't imagine they drain very fast.


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Re: Kid Jumps In JP Splashdown Pool

Post by hobie16 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:10 pm

Rather then heatedly debate the way to properly stop vehicles on a ride, can anyone ping the design engineers to find out why the rides were designed the way they are? Engineering is always a game of balancing needs vs. wants vs. budget.


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