Stupid Guest Tricks

tabacco wrote:

Dante101 wrote:Forgive my ignorance, but are you guys (tourguides) union? If so, we not bring it up to them?

Guest Relations is non-union.

Okay, then perhaps you can get one of the other unions to fight it in their next round of contract negotiations. If it gets knocked down in the next Attractions or Foods contract, then they'd have a hard time keeping it for the rest of the Park. Try to get the Foods and Attractions Shop Stewards talking about this.

That course of action might work, and you won't have to get your hands dirty!

well, dante, it's not about getting our hands dirty or not, it's the simple fact that we are not union so we are the most at-will-employees there are in the park. for us it's the simple fact of it not beeing worth it to lose our job over. and beleive me they would fire us for making mutany here. one of our people like i sayed has already talked to tom but got the standard "i'll look into it..." anwer, so basicaly waiting for us to drop it. intimidation is the companies best weapon.
i like the idea of bringing it up at the next contract nagotiations. but then again it's not gonna be important enough to be an issue for attractions for example where tips are one in a million. what do you think vonseegs?

tourbunny wrote:well, dante, it's not about getting our hands dirty or not, it's the simple fact that we are not union so we are the most at-will-employees there are in the park. for us it's the simple fact of it not beeing worth it to lose our job over. and beleive me they would fire us for making mutany here.

It is about "getting your hands dirty." When I use that phrase, I mean you can work to get the policy changed without it looking like you are even involved. You can get others to "do your dirty work."
If you go to some guy in Labor Relations about this - your hands are dirty; meaning the company knows it is you trying to push them to drop this policy. If you get someone else to get the policy changed - your hands are clean; meaning the company thinks it's the other person (the other departments' unions) trying to get the policy changed...

If it is like you say, where there are laws on the books against this kind of tip-taking behavior by Disney, then it will be a simple little matter for either the Attractions or Foods unions to defeat in their next contract negotiations. They shouldn't have a big fight on their hands if Disney is going against state labor laws or the like.
And when I say "Attractions negotiations," I mean the Master Services contract - which includes Attractions, custodial, main gate, etc... There are certain segments there that would be very interested in getting this policy changed.
And you don't even have to get to the shop stewards. Just try to talk about it to the regular cast members in the other departments. Try to get the dialogue going around the Park, and the word will get around to the shop stewards and the union. You guys make more in tips then people in Attractions and Custodial, but that doesn't mean you're the only ones who want this policy changed...

dante,
i probably frazed myself wrong. i totally understood how you ment the things you sayed and my reply did not mean to have an angry undertone.
there is already one shopsteward aware of the policy and following up closely on the progress with tom.
maybe also this website will spread the word a bit. i will certainly not give up and keep everyone informed.
it would actualy be a good point to bring up in the next nagotiations so disney can be made aware of one more illegal thing they are doing to us here.

the first time I was offered a tip it was at Jungle... a little girl was absolutely loving the ride so I offered to let them ride again, no wait. at the end of the second tour (different jokes) the mother tried to tip me $5, this is the only time I sincerely refused a tip. that little girl made my day and I didn't want money to taint it at all.

turns out that the mother gave the money to my lead who forced it on me at the end of my next trip.