The Brazilians are like cows...

[bpgstudios]

AHH! They make life at merge so much harder. I found that there are never less than 10, no matter how many the group leader claims there are. Luckily I know what's going on ;)

CM at merge: *about to close standby* How many?
Stupid Brazillian Tour Leader: Four.
CM: You'll be in the next group, it will be just a few minutes.
*CM lets in FP, cuts off the line, procedes back to standby, lets them in*

Turns out that what Brazil considers "four" is American 50. What was more painful was some of them weren't wearing the colored shirts. The leader looked like he was trying to play merge and since not all of them had the group color shirt, I was worried that he was preventing regular guests from getting in. I made sure he only let those in the group in and he assured me that they were all in the group. Screwed up the entire FP:SB ratio :mad:

Scarriest moment dealing with the Brazillians? When they started a parkwide chant at Epcot after ROE. With megaphones.

[Cheshire Figment]

But earlier this year I had a good incident with them.

I was at Epcot with my nephew Dainan (Cyclone Man) at we were near Norway about 8:20pm, going to wait for IllumiNations near Mexico and the place was sort of deserted, so we decided to ride Maelstrom first and then come back. When we came back the entire fence area was full of Brazilians.

I was on my ECV and pulled up behind them and just sat. After a few minutes a couple of them moved away and gave me room to pull my ECV right up to the fence, and Dainan stood behind me so we both had an unobstructed view.

And neither of us asked any of them to let me in!

[mechurchlady]

Brazilians may be a pain in the neck but what is the cause of their actions.

Most of them are teen agers and young adults. Cheerleaders are a prime example of what happens when teen run amok. In this case this is the prime problem with the Brazilians. They are rambuctious youths miles from parents and authorities like principals. They are like boxed foals turned loose in a pasture.

Second problem is mob mentality and poor leadership. They follow the group leader who to often is overwhelmed with too many people or is not trained to be an assertive leader. They should tell people before riding to how to load. They should be translating and making sure the group is behaved. I had a large family plow through the DL Jungle Cruise line. They were catching up to family even on the stairs. Nothing new with groups cutting in line, hogging resources and not obeying CMs.

At DL you see the Japanese and Koreans in a group and they have a strong leader who tells people what to do. We been lucky to avoid the Brazilians but please do look around for other groups of unruly teens with poor supervison and you will realize that Brazilians are not the only ones.

Also if you talk to them in a humane way you will probably get a lot accomplished.

[Notatourist]

Churchy, I sincerely disagree.

For most of these kids from Brazil, it's a chance to be away from their parents, their strict upbringing, and school. Most of them are 15, and this is their gift from their parents. Think quinceanos, mostly a coming out party in the hispanic culture.

The leaders are assertive, they want their kids to do whatever they want to do.

This is not right. Ever. It's also a very different culture that folks are dealing with here. In Brazil, you're either rich or poor. There is no middle class. These kids are used to servants, and can be extremely rude.

On the other hand, you will find the rare exception of a good kid in an unruly group. Those are the ones I will be kind to, as an example of how to act in the real world to their fellow members of the group. It tends to work.

[PrinceOfSka]

it reminds me of the book "work and play at the rat"... where the author(s) make a brilliant (sarc) deduction that CMs have made up their own lingo when it came to rude guests... the authors declare that since the CMs can talk about guests as being rude (?) that they call all rude guests Brazilians.... because to the authors there is no way that one ethnic group could be the source of so many negative cast stories. They then say that most cast members live in their own reality and this is an example of it because they refuse to ruin the magic for themselves therefore all rude guests = brazillians... lol................. Nope... there are just that many bad groups of brazillians!

[Big Wallaby]

They then say that most cast members live in their own reality and this is an example of it because they refuse to ruin the magic for themselves therefore all rude guests = brazillians...

It's not that they're worse than others... it's that because of their sheer numbers they're more noticable.

Sounds like an interesting book... could someone send me a copy? I'm running out of toilet paper.

[PrinceOfSka]

It's not that they're worse than others... it's that because of their sheer numbers they're more noticable.

Sounds like an interesting book... could someone send me a copy? I'm running out of toilet paper.

thats about all its good for... i have heard some claim its the best academic source on the parks... IMO all three authors are hacks that have no idea what goes on at WDW....

[Big Wallaby]

...all three authors are hacks that have no idea what goes on at WDW....

In quoting you, I removed your "IMO" because to me it's not just your opinion. I've read quite a few articles about what an awful place Disney World is, woe to anyone who ever goes there and gets brainwashed by the mouse, blah blah blah blah.

I went to Amazon and looked it up. After reading that, I would love to have these authors on my bus. I am sure I would be one of the "mindless, unquestioning Disney fanatic robots" that they think work here. Sounds like they basically want to make even all the Cast members sound like these horrible people... In the (in-house) review, I especially like:

...the appalling, even stomach-turning, working conditions endured by the "head-wearers," which'll make you pause before posing for a grip-and-grin with Mickey.

Hey lookie, a review that I agree with:

If you prefer the Marxist view of the world and think Disney is the symbol of capitalistic evil, this book is for you!
On the other hand, if you're looking for solid research and thoughtful reflection, find another book. The authors gather together anecdotal evidence in a biased fashion and then draw grand conclusions. The approach is roughly: Think Disney exploits its workers? Look for a few disgruntled workers to back up your claim. Find one who doesn't complain? Call 'em naive and move on...

When they started reciting known urban legends as truths, I knew the book was a joke.

[Syndrome]

So if the Brazilians use quinceanos as their excuse to run wild at WDW, how come I am never run down by black-clad hordes of Amish teens in the midst of rumspringer?

[Big Wallaby]

how come I am never run down by black-clad hordes of Amish teens in the midst of rumspringer?

An Amish with a 'tude? You know that's unheard of!

Huh. You can't post a message that's all quotes.