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Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:12 am
by bpgstudios
I knew someone that knew about 2 semesters worth of spanish, and because they were not comfortable enough with the language didn't get the language pin. But they knew enough to recognize certain key words and communicate with guests slowly to a degree in spanish if needed. If I am not mistaken, doesnt Disney specifically say if you are not fluent enough with the language, they won't give you the language pin?

To those that say that you shouldnt be alowed to enter WDW without some limited knowledge of English, I agree. However, Disney is making it too easy for those without English to visit the parks with the Ears to the World system, translated guidemaps, saftey speils, and CMs with language pins.

Dylan, you did the correct thing IMO. If it ends up being a record card violation fight it. Saftey, then courtesy, show, efficiency. You tried to communicate that they needed to cease a dangerous activity, they did not comply. You used another method which should be completely acceptable.

And you know what? I bet that guest complained to GR in perfect English. :rolleyes:

Edit: and yes, ucfsweetie, I agree totally. I absolutely hate when that happens. "I'm sorry, but I dont understand you." You know, we should start giving them directions to the nearest restroom in reply to whatever they ask. Or tell them they might be able to find a "llama" at Disney's Animal Kingdom. :p:

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:39 am
by darph nader
What a crock of shit. You told the kids to get down (in english), and yet the message could'nt be relayed in spanish? This father is a F-in jerk. :mad:
I know 'very' little spanish, "Dos cerverza mos, por favor". :D: Definitely fight this tooth and nail.

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:16 am
by Main Streeter
bpgstudios wrote:doesnt Disney specifically say if you are not fluent enough with the language, they won't give you the language pin?
Correct! If a CM isn't fluent DLR will not even give the test. WDW is probably the same. bgp, correct again when you state guest probably complained in perfect English. Don't they all?! :twisted:

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:23 am
by Main Streeter
darph nader wrote:I know 'very' little spanish, "Dos cerverza mos, por favor".
"mos"? :confused: Mas! darph, I'll snail you my Disney Spanish dictionary. :D: ;)

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:46 am
by june1st1997
As A lowly SG with no experience in this at all... I support you Driver Dylan. I think it's embarrassing that the powers that be would not back you up.

The whole spanish thing is a sticky subject with me... My maiden name is Santos. When I moved to southern calf. my phone bill and phone book both came in spanish. This happened for months... I did not speak a word. Not a word. I got offered jobs at telemundo because of my last name, encouraged to keep my heritage alive. I'm Portuguese... it's not my heritage. incredibly frustrating.

I am learning spanish right now... My nanny speaks spanish with my daughter ( at our request) I believe it will make my daughters life richer. It is certainly making mine.

I do disagree with some of the other posters though (don't I always :D: )...

If you come to the united states and do not want to learn the language... fine by me. However you will probably flirt with the poverty line.

I hear complaints from family members all the time about how certain people get to take advantage of the system because they don't speak english (grants, scholarships, etc.). These are the same people who are on Disability... My answer to all of this is... some people take advantage of the system... regardless of ethnicity...

As far as learning a language to travel abroad.. I salute everyone who does it. Seriously... good for you... You will most certainly get much more from your experience that someone who does not.

Personally... I probably would not. English is the international language. It is used in Aviation and maritime. I'm an elitist or an ugly american.

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:14 pm
by Notatourist
Imagine looking Spanish but speaking...Japanese.

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:43 pm
by leftcoaster
bpgstudios wrote:Edit: and yes, ucfsweetie, I agree totally. I absolutely hate when that happens. "I'm sorry, but I dont understand you." You know, we should start giving them directions to the nearest restroom in reply to whatever they ask. Or tell them they might be able to find a "llama" at Disney's Animal Kingdom. :p:
Steve Martin: "Donde esta casa de pepe?" :D:

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:39 pm
by Syndrome
My biggest beef with ESL SGs is that they feel compelled to go to a show, and then one of them LOUDY translates the whole friggin' thing for the rest of the family. We had that on our last Disney cruise. Both Dad and Mom translated the entire "Disney Dreams" show for the SG spawn, despite glares and shushes from everyone around them. And NOT in a quiet voice either...in a regular (and actually towards the loud side) voice. As is usual when an SG ruins the show for me, I had to "stumble" and therefore trample their feet on the way out (we always leave before the cruise director's spiel at the end because after 55 Disney cruises, we could give it ourselves). Some messages (like stepping on feet...too bad I only wear flipflops) require no translation.

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:37 pm
by darph nader
[quote="Main Streeter"]"mos"? :confused: Mas! darph, I'll snail you my Disney Spanish dictionary. :D: ]
Ok,Ok. It could have been "Dos cerveza 'still',por favor" but I couldn't find MY S-E coaster. Believe it or not I 'thought' about taking Spanish years ago. We lived Biloxi Miss at the time. IF I had known my dad was going to relocate us to Tucson,I would have pursued it further. :(

Re: Learn F@#%ing english a#@$ole.:readit:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:46 pm
by ktulu
Notatourist wrote:Imagine looking Spanish but speaking...Japanese.
Anata wa nihongo o hanashimasu ka?