Stupid guest trick at Hall of Presidents

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:05 am

june1st1997 wrote:An infant walked on the seal of the president. Big Deal. Now if the kid had gotten hurt because his absent minded grandpa placed him somewhere he shouldn't have been... That would be outrageous. If someone else had been hurt... that would be unforgiveable. If someone else's vacation had been screwed up or made less pleasant by this mistake ( I doubt grandpa knew the weight of his trangression), then I see getting all worked up.

Compared to all the crappy stupid things you must see people do all day long, this has got to fall pretty low on the list.

I guess the fact that it is only one of two presidential seals is lost on you. You see, it's special....that's why it's got a fence around it, respecting boundaries and all that stuff....

june1st1997 · Post by **june1st1997** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:30 am

Holden wrote:I guess the fact that it is only one of two presidential seals is lost on you. You see, it's special....that's why it's got a fence around it, respecting boundaries and all that stuff....

Lost on me, not at all. But really could this infant be any worse than the guy in Washington who is walking on it?

It's not flag burning. It does not seem that it was an intentional lack of respect. ( I guess the same can be said about the guy in Washington) It was a mistake.

Boundaries... I personally was raised to respect them, all of them... Not everyone is like me... I get that. No one got hurt. I'm guessing no one was REALLY impacted. Ya wanna talk about boundaries... Let's talk about line cutting, shoving your way to the best seat for show or parade, shoving your way into or out of the park, letting your kid stand on something and having him slip and get hurt, or hurt someone else, not smoking in the designated places. Those things ACTUALLY impact other people. Those ruin other people's days.

I'm guessing in the past everyone on this board has made a few mistakes. If it does not hurt anyone or for that matter impact anyone... Get over it.

Again, as a castmember or a guest for that matter the Disney resorts can offer both the best and worst of humanity. In my book this does not rank.

I'm guessing almost every castmember has seen worse the last time they were at work.

leftcoaster · Post by **leftcoaster** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:54 pm

june1st1997 wrote:Lost on me, not at all. But really could this infant be any worse than the guy in Washington who is walking on it?

It's not flag burning. It does not seem that it was an intentional lack of respect. ( I guess the same can be said about the guy in Washington) It was a mistake.

The "intentional lack of respect" is the grandpa thinking it was funny to put the kid inside a fenced off area inside the American pavilion. The kid is not the SG here.

june1st1997 · Post by **june1st1997** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:30 pm

I agree leftcoaster, grandpa did show an intentional lack of respect... for WDW and there desire to keep people out of that area.

Not the president.

I still think it's a weird place to have one of only two presidential seals.

The seal of the President is a symbol, that's it. It does not sound like it was done out of protest, (which is highly inappropriate, and akin to flag burning) but just as leftcoaster helped my realize... Intentional Boneheadedness.

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:38 pm

june1st1997 wrote:Lost on me, not at all. But really could this infant be any worse than the guy in Washington who is walking on it?

It's not flag burning. It does not seem that it was an intentional lack of respect. (I guess the same can be said about the guy in Washington) It was a mistake.

so make your political statement on another board if you want to bash the president. read why this board was established.

sure, there are lots of things that are bigger than the things posted here... world peace, poverty, racism, but the point of the board is to vent about things stupid guests do.

june1st1997 · Post by **june1st1997** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:42 pm

Look, point is, this is just one of several stupid things, several stupid people did at WDW that day. The fact that it was the seal of the president doesn't give it any more weight in my eyes.

It does not appear to be an act of protest. Just stupidity. And again not an act of stupidity that impacted anyone else. I'm guessing no one's day or trip was ruined.

I think it's alot worse when people's stupid selfish actions impact or hurt someone else. When someone saves up for a vacation and it is ruined by someone else not thinking or showing another person an intentional lack of respect... That gets me angry. That is an outrage. Not a symbol. A symbol is not a person.

june1st1997 · Post by **june1st1997** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:50 pm

Holden wrote:so make your political statement on another board if you want to bash the president.

I would hardly call what I said bashing.

sure, there are lots of things that are bigger than the things posted here...world peace, poverty, racism, but the point of the board is to vent about things stupid guests do.

I'm very clear on the point of the board. Which is why I am so surprised... There are alot more interesting stupid sometimes unbelieveably cruel and selfish things listed on this board. The only thing of note in this thread is the seal of the president... You take that out of the equation and it's just some guy not obeying a chain or fence... according to the board that happens all the time.

All I did was post my opinion... also the point of the board.

leftcoaster · Post by **leftcoaster** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:49 pm

june1st1997 wrote:I'm very clear on the point of the board. Which is why I am so surprised... There are alot more interesting stupid sometimes unbelieveably cruel and selfish things listed on this board. The only thing of note in this thread is the seal of the president... You take that out of the equation and it's just some guy not obeying a chain or fence... according to the board that happens all the time.

All I did was post my opinion... also the point of the board.

No, that's not it at all. It just happened to have occurred at the American pavilion at Epcot.

The OP was venting about a specific person who obviously ignored the fence surrounding something that WDW did not want guests to walk over, damage, mark up, etc. Just as much as if you were in the Louvre and saw something on the floor that had ropes around it. Would you or that grandfather think it was funny for his grandson/daughter to walk across it. Suppose it there was a section of sand scuptures ? Suppose it was one of YOUR sand sculptures? Would it be funny then? The whole concept of not going where you should not is the main issue that the OP was trying to make.

Without taking liberties from the moderators....obviously you are free to post your opinions here. However, don't whine if your opinion is in the minority.

With that, I am through with you.

kurtisnelson · Post by **kurtisnelson** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:01 pm

Isn't this board supposed to be SG free? There is no point in argueing on this one. It happened end of story. Zazoo, :twisted: I am changing the topic.

june1st1997 · Post by **june1st1997** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:09 pm

Who's whining? Not me.

Why in the world is the only other Seal of the President at WDW? It's bizarre. How can you not think things like this will happen.

It's a vacation resort... very different from The Smithsonian or The Louvre.

I think it's pretty stupid to display something of value in a theme park and not expect this kind of thing to happen.

Leftcoaster, your responses to my posts will be missed... I assure you.

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