From: Andy <AndySundquist2001@m...>
Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:12pm
Subject: Re: the one with the loop.
Look, I've said it once, and now I'm saying it again, this is not the
place to tell Cast Members whether they are right or wrong with what
they say. Drop the subject, the title of this group is Stupid Guest
Tricks, not "Former Cast Members Vs. Current Cast Members". And
Steve, until I see your name on the list of CURRENT Disney University
trainers, don't lecture cast members on how to do their jobs. You're
not even a current cast member, so it's not fair for you to judge
what is right and what is wrong since you don't even know what being
On Stage is like anymore, and again, even if you did have a right to
do so, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO LECTURE US ABOUT IT!!!
"The one with the loop.."
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From: Steve <baloosplace@y...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:49am
Subject: Re: the one with the loop.
Face it Andy. What was said to that little girl was wrong. Stop
whining because someone called you guys on it. I have no problem with
making fun of stupid Guest situations but this "SHIT outta luck"
comment went too far.
And just because I don't work for Disney anymore doesn't mean I don't
know right from wrong. Fact is I would have fired anyone for treating
a Guest like that.
How thick headed are you people????????????
Steve
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:49am
Subject: Re: the one with the loop.
Face it Andy. What was said to that little girl was wrong. Stop
whining because someone called you guys on it. I have no problem with
making fun of stupid Guest situations but this "SHIT outta luck"
comment went too far.
And just because I don't work for Disney anymore doesn't mean I don't
know right from wrong. Fact is I would have fired anyone for treating
a Guest like that.
How thick headed are you people????????????
Steve
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From: Blustangbetty27@a...
Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 1:40pm
Subject: Re: the one with the loop.
One last little comment that's been bugging me for awhile...
If Walt were still alive do you think Disneyland would be the way it is now,
with all this crap going on?? Did ya think about that Steve-O?? Maybe you
should work a few days on a churro wagon and get yelled at because Small
World isn't open, you don't have apple sugar for your churros because your
managers (who don't deal with the guests like we do) didn't think it was
cost-effective, and you're charging $8.25 for three sodas, and then still
have a smile on your face.
Date: Mon Oct 28, 2002 1:40pm
Subject: Re: the one with the loop.
One last little comment that's been bugging me for awhile...
If Walt were still alive do you think Disneyland would be the way it is now,
with all this crap going on?? Did ya think about that Steve-O?? Maybe you
should work a few days on a churro wagon and get yelled at because Small
World isn't open, you don't have apple sugar for your churros because your
managers (who don't deal with the guests like we do) didn't think it was
cost-effective, and you're charging $8.25 for three sodas, and then still
have a smile on your face.
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From: Steve <baloosplace@y...>
Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:56am
Subject: Stupid Guest Tricks Posting Re: the one with the loop.
First of all, it's Steve, not Steve-O, 2nd, obviously if Walt were
still alive and running things, the Parks wouldn't be putting up with
Castmembers like yourselves, nor would it be in the downward spiral
it is going in. Did "{you" think about that Betty??
Date: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:56am
Subject: Stupid Guest Tricks Posting Re: the one with the loop.
First of all, it's Steve, not Steve-O, 2nd, obviously if Walt were
still alive and running things, the Parks wouldn't be putting up with
Castmembers like yourselves, nor would it be in the downward spiral
it is going in. Did "{you" think about that Betty??
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From: yensidphj <pammers1216@h...>
Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 0:30am
Subject: Moving On
I was gonna stay out of this buuuut I just want to say that if Steve
doesn't like what's going on here, please just unsubscribe yourself
and let us get back to telling stupid guest stories. Or start your
own list to discuss appropriate CM behavior (with or without Walt
present)!!!!!! I joined this list to share stories not debate proper
CM behavior!!!!!
Thank You
Pam
Date: Thu Oct 31, 2002 0:30am
Subject: Moving On
I was gonna stay out of this buuuut I just want to say that if Steve
doesn't like what's going on here, please just unsubscribe yourself
and let us get back to telling stupid guest stories. Or start your
own list to discuss appropriate CM behavior (with or without Walt
present)!!!!!! I joined this list to share stories not debate proper
CM behavior!!!!!
Thank You
Pam
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From: rgwajda <rgwajda@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 7:17am
Subject: Re: the one with the loop.
Realistically, If Walt Disney was still alive, he would probably look
terrible becasue he would be so old. He most likely would be in a
motorized wheelchair if he is fast or lucky enough to get one. God
knows that those fat slobs that run for the wheelchairs, that don't
really need them will get the chairs before poor old Walt.
Rich
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 7:17am
Subject: Re: the one with the loop.
Realistically, If Walt Disney was still alive, he would probably look
terrible becasue he would be so old. He most likely would be in a
motorized wheelchair if he is fast or lucky enough to get one. God
knows that those fat slobs that run for the wheelchairs, that don't
really need them will get the chairs before poor old Walt.
Rich
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Re: "The one with the loop.."
Was this thread moved from somewhere else? Don't understand why it's all quoted and sent from the same person...
Anyway, Steve is wrong about the guest being our first priority. SAFETY is our first priority. Safety can and often does come at the expense of the guest and their wishes.
Small point, but just nitpicking like Steve is.
I'm glad Andy said what he said. He didn't state if he actually said "SH|T" or simply "S.O.L."
My response to a little girl yelling at me even after I gave an explanation would be a very sarcastic, "What a precious child." Or maybe I would have simply told them the ride they were looking for was on the other side of the park.
What really should have happened is the parent should have told the kid to shut up.
We are not there to take abuse. It doesn't matter if the abuse is coming from a 300 pound football player or a grandmother or a spoiled little girl.
Maybe Andy's response should have been, "Ma'am, please take your child away before I call security." After all, the kid is causing a scene and probably disrupting business. Andy is there to sell things, not take abuse.
So he may have lost it and said something innappropriate. And yes, I'm sure he wouldn't have said it if Walt or Cynthia Harris or whoever was standing there with him. And if he did in earshot of a manager, while they might not fire him, I'm sure he'd get disciplined somehow.
But so what. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm glad Andy said that. The guest should know to keep their child on a leash.
Anyway, Steve is wrong about the guest being our first priority. SAFETY is our first priority. Safety can and often does come at the expense of the guest and their wishes.
Small point, but just nitpicking like Steve is.
I'm glad Andy said what he said. He didn't state if he actually said "SH|T" or simply "S.O.L."
My response to a little girl yelling at me even after I gave an explanation would be a very sarcastic, "What a precious child." Or maybe I would have simply told them the ride they were looking for was on the other side of the park.
What really should have happened is the parent should have told the kid to shut up.
We are not there to take abuse. It doesn't matter if the abuse is coming from a 300 pound football player or a grandmother or a spoiled little girl.
Maybe Andy's response should have been, "Ma'am, please take your child away before I call security." After all, the kid is causing a scene and probably disrupting business. Andy is there to sell things, not take abuse.
So he may have lost it and said something innappropriate. And yes, I'm sure he wouldn't have said it if Walt or Cynthia Harris or whoever was standing there with him. And if he did in earshot of a manager, while they might not fire him, I'm sure he'd get disciplined somehow.
But so what. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm glad Andy said that. The guest should know to keep their child on a leash.
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I should probably clear something up. Anything posted by "StupidGuestTricks" are posts carried over from our old Yahoo group, Explained here. Steve was finally banned for his disrespect for other members after being warned several times I got to kick him on my birthday.
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